Lucy Letby case - Evidence discussion thread

[motorbiking]

It was put to her at interview and her responses were shown to the jury.

I would say the no comment responses would have come across worse.

A (slim) chance of acquittal, if she were guilty. The defence concentrating on the weak circumstantial case. Little point if innocent but the police have all sorts of techniques to trip the unwary. Like implying a sinister motive to a nurse googling her patients and wanting to go to the funeral.

they built a picture of a sinister, evil criminal, when she may have been just a bit of an odd ball

But how do they judge an innocent person who fully cooperates but has the weight of so called experts pitted against her? I suspect the defence or their experts weren’t fully up to the task.

They simply could not find experts willing to go against the establishment. NHS is the meal ticket.

 

[ellal]

I suspect the defence or their experts weren’t fully up to the task.

Or as in most cases the state prosecutors don't have to worry about the costs and have more money to play with than the defence...

So if they win it's champagne all round...

And if they lose it's champagne all round...

Because either the defence or the taxpayer picks up the tab

 

[motorbiking]

I think the threshold for DCOs should be much lower. Any person not entitled to legal aid, should be able to claim some of their legal costs if acquitted. As it currently stands you have to show they acted unnecessarily or improperly and that is a high test. Perhaps a scale, but they should get at least half, as result of acquittal.

 

[IT Minion]

They simply could not find experts willing to go against the establishment. NHS is the meal ticket

It's questionable if they tried hard enough. Theres plenty of people willing to do so now.

 

[blup]

I would say the no comment responses would have come across worse.

they built a picture of a sinister, evil criminal, when she may have been just a bit of an odd ball

They simply could not find experts willing to go against the establishment. NHS is the meal ticket.

A guilty person would almost certainly have followed the no comment no cross examination line.

I think she was probably undertrained and under experienced but kind hearted, but that applies to many in the nhs caring sector.

 

[motorbiking]

It's questionable if they tried hard enough. Theres plenty of people willing to do so now.

but as blub suggested, just a lowly nurse on a basic salary and no high profile MPs and Lawyers picking up her case. Now she has international experts pulling apart the data. Dewi Evans, comes across as arrogant and stubborn, in the documentaries and openly shows how he went in to the case thinking there had been a murder. Great for the CPS, but hardly an objective expert.

 

[motorbiking]

A guilty person would almost certainly have followed the no comment no cross examination line.

People with psychopathy also like to talk. They have a view that they are smarter and enjoy the games. Shipman for example.

I think she was probably undertrained and under experienced but kind hearted, but that applies to many in the nhs caring sector.

and represented by a duty sol, who probably didn't think they had much of case at the time.