Lucy Letby case - Evidence discussion thread

[Deluks]

In trouble about something else now isn't he?

I wasn't aware of that. My point still stands though.
A wrongful conviction should always result in compensation.

 

[morqthana]

Having said that, there is no doubt that the accused were IRA supporters, which is why they came to the attention of the Police in the first place.

In what way were they IRA "supporters"?

 

[pete01]

I wasn't aware of that. My point still stands though.
A wrongful conviction should always result in compensation.

Of course...

What would Lucy Letby deserve if shes found to be innocent? 10 million?

 

[Vinty]

In what way were they IRA "supporters"?

In the case of the Birmingham bombers, the suspects were arrested en route to IRA funeral in Belfast of an IRA bomber who blown himself up while planting a bomb in Birmingham.

 

[Vinty]

I wasn't aware of that. My point still stands though.
A wrongful conviction should always result in compensation.

Either guilty or not guilty, that used to be the rule.
If wrongfully convicted then by definition the defendant is innocent and therefore entitled to compensation.

 

[Vinty]

Of course...

What would Lucy Letby deserve if shes found to be innocent? 10 million?

Maybe more.
How much does Trump get when he sues for defamation.

 

[morqthana]

In the case of the Birmingham bombers, the suspects were arrested en route to IRA funeral in Belfast of an IRA bomber who blown himself up while planting a bomb in Birmingham.

So attending a funeral of someone you know makes you a supporter of the organisation he was a member of?

 

[ellal]

In the case of the Birmingham bombers, the suspects were arrested en route to IRA funeral in Belfast of an IRA bomber who blown himself up while planting a bomb in Birmingham.

So you are a fan of guilt by association...

Best you check out who are standing next to when the sh*t hits said fan!

 

[Highway Man]

Of course...

What would Lucy Letby deserve if shes found to be innocent? 10 million?

She would need a complete identity change now as her life is ruined under her name, no amount of money could compensate for losing your life like she has.

 

[motorbiking]

Around £400k, then they might deduct food and lodging. Could drop to around 200k

but then there would be the book deal, the story and even onlyfans etc..

 

[blup]

People with psychopathy also like to talk. They have a view that they are smarter and enjoy the games. Shipman for example.

Shipman clammed up when his lies were exposed. The evidence demonstrated his guilt unlike LL (apart from the “confession”)

and represented by a duty sol, who probably didn't think they had much of case at the time.

That’s the part there’s not much to go on - understandably as the case review is under way. I suspect the review will happen quite soon now there are no further prosecutions

 

[blup]

The verdicts in the Birmingham 6 and Guilford 4 cases were due to a wave of anti Irish sentiment at the time.
Any objective view of the evidence would have found them innocent.
Having said that, there is no doubt that the accused were IRA supporters, which is why they came to the attention of the Police in the first place.

They were picked off the street and beaten up for being Irish, that was enough to be regarded as a supporter of the RA back then.

 

[motorbiking]

Shipman clammed up when his lies were exposed. The evidence demonstrated his guilt unlike LL (apart from the “confession”)

That’s the part there’s not much to go on - understandably as the case review is under way. I suspect the review will happen quite soon now there are no further prosecutions

Its due about now.

 

[pete01]

She would need a complete identity change now as her life is ruined under her name, no amount of money could compensate for losing your life like she has.

True, but 10 or 20 million would help.

 

[Vinty]

So you are a fan of guilt by association

Not at all, I was just pointing out the context at the time.
The suspects at first denied they were going to the terrorist funeral, this raised suspicion.
At the time there was intense pressure on the Police to make arrests, so, given public feeling at the time and the West Midlands reputation for beating confessions out of suspects a miscarriage of justice was not unlikely.

They were picked off the street and beaten up for being Irish, that was enough to be regarded as a supporter of the RA back then.

No that is untrue, the Police didn't go around beating up people because they were Irish.
The IRA and their political wing were engaged in a terrorist campaign against the British state and its population.
This behaviour led to the inevitable rise of anti Irish sentiment and the prospect public anger being directed at people who were perceived to be supporters of the atrocities of the IRA.
Given the level of provocation from the IRA and its supporters the British response was quite restrained.