Makerfield

[JohnD]

MB

That's really interesting.

I asked you about how nobody has done a good job of explaining why it's a win for Reform.

I was expecting your answer to mention the positive attributes of Reform at least once, but no.

All you could do was describe how you thought the incumbent party might fall and say was that people would hope that Reform would do better than them.

He did his best to list all the good qualities of Deform.

The number was....

 

[motorbiking]

He did his best to list all the good qualities of Deform.

The number was....

Better than this disastrous Labour government is the only quality they need. That and a decent chance of winning a GE.

 

[Brigadier]

He did his best to list all the good qualities of Deform.

The number was....

I'll settle for him standing by his post, and saying which of Reform's policies he considers "interesting".....

 

[motorbiking]

I'll settle for him standing by his post, and saying which of Reform's policies he considers "interesting".....

See thread.

Post in thread 'Reform Policies'

18 Nov 2025

Income tax exemption for front-line NHS workers - good idea
Tax relief on private healthcare and insurance - helps keep demand down
Raise minimum income tax threshold - if it increases the wealth gap between the employed and the unemployed, why not
Scrap stamp duty on properties under £750,000, probably should be regional, round my way thats a pretty modest house, that would be "dead posh" in some areas.
Inheritance tax abolished for estates under £2 million - sounds good why should the government get tax on wealth that has already been taxed, given more and more...

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[Brigadier]

See thread.

Post in thread 'Reform Policies'

18 Nov 2025

Income tax exemption for front-line NHS workers - good idea
Tax relief on private healthcare and insurance - helps keep demand down
Raise minimum income tax threshold - if it increases the wealth gap between the employed and the unemployed, why not
Scrap stamp duty on properties under £750,000, probably should be regional, round my way thats a pretty modest house, that would be "dead posh" in some areas.
Inheritance tax abolished for estates under £2 million - sounds good why should the government get tax on wealth that has already been taxed, given more and more...

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The best estimate of a costing for the above is c. £90 billion. Per annum.

Do you have a link to their official costings?

 

[motorbiking]

Do you have a source?

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

The best estimate of a costing for the above is c. £90 billion. Per annum.

That'll be a good few leased shiny new government funded cars off the roads then.

Good.

Obviously there will be cuts, and Reform aren't daft. Of course they're not going to hand the loony lefties ammunition by saying what they'll cut. We'll have the Beeb wheeling out people in wheelchairs looking sad, all the usual propaganda.

 

[Brigadier]

That'll be a good few leased shiny new government funded cars off the roads then.

Good.

Obviously there will be cuts, and Reform aren't daft. Of course they're not going to hand the loony lefties ammunition by saying what they'll cut. We'll have the Beeb wheeling out people in wheelchairs looking sad, all the usual propaganda.

Great thing about Re-(failed tories), they run from scrutiny.

Nowt but soundbites then.

And even if they aren't, their performance in local government gives little confidence in their ability to deliver.

Regardless of your ideological leanings, that's not good.

 

[motorbiking]

I'll settle for him standing by his post, and saying which of Reform's policies he considers "interesting".....

on the subject of standing by posts..

The best estimate of a costing for the above is c. £90 billion. Per annum.

Do you have a link to their official costings?

Do you have a source?

It's not a credible claim unless there is a source with a detailed breakdown.

Nowt but soundbites then.

see above

And even if they aren't, their performance in local government gives little confidence in their ability to deliver.

apples and pears. Thats assuming your claim is even true

 

[Brigadier]

on the subject of standing by posts..


It's not a credible claim unless there is a source with a detailed breakdown.

see above

apples and pears. Thats assuming your claim is even true

The fundamentals are that you've stated your support for "policies" (which they're not, even on their website as they're lacking in costings and delivery mechanisms).

Mine is a fair question.

It is not on me to disprove that which you haven't proved.

 

[Brigadier]

That'll be a good few leased shiny new government funded cars off the roads then.

Good.

Obviously there will be cuts, and Reform aren't daft. Of course they're not going to hand the loony lefties ammunition by saying what they'll cut. We'll have the Beeb wheeling out people in wheelchairs looking sad, all the usual propaganda.

Might as well just close your eyes and poke at the ballot paper then

 

[festive]

Well done makerfield the campaign to convince them 'manchester will take over London' was gobbled up.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Great thing about Re-(failed tories), they run from scrutiny.

Nowt but soundbites then.

And even if they aren't, their performance in local government gives little confidence in their ability to deliver.

Regardless of your ideological leanings, that's not good.

Was any of this word-salad intended to mean anything?

AI Waffle-O-Matic?

 

[festive]

Look what happened when the government engineered a new PM aka Rishy Rich. Didn't end well did it and he promised favourable treatment to his local constituents.

Allegedly Starmer is center right lol engineered no.. a tool definitely.

God help the 'extreme right wingers' they will become radical overnight.

We are also now looking at a north south divide as the promise spreads Andy will make the North great again.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Andy won't do anything. He has no vision, no answers and hasn't promised anything specific. He's more like some sort of weird cult than a politician, he didn't even mention the word Labour, it's going to be the Andy Party.

He's very motivated about immigration... he wants to ensure that they get much better housing. There are going to be more boats than water in the channel.

He's going to have a very short honeymoon before the penny drops with the muppets who voted for him.