New toilet needed...
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You didnt fancy the sandingham then?So... anybody recommend any reasonably priced close-coupled units please?
I went down to B&Q just to get an idea of what's out there, and quite liked this one - but then read horrendous reviews
I don't mind paying a bit extra for something half decent which will last a long time etc, but not sure I want to stretch to £400+ as I've seen for some units...
https://www.homebase.co.uk/armitage-shanks-sandringham-51-toilet-package-takeaway_p382145
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Oh, dunno - didn't think of Homebase... will mosey down tomorrow and have a butcher's...
So… being one of those people who delights in making life as difficult as possible for myself, of course I quite fancy one of those crappers that backs right up against the wall, like this one.
I’m thinking about the water inlet etc – are they an absolute pain in the jacksie to install on this type, or do you just use a flexible pipe, connect to the cistern, then lower the cistern into place with the pipe already connected?
Oh - and some toilets have kind of non-standard (eg square) seats - if I chose one of these, would I be storing up trouble for myself in the future when it might have to be replaced - "Oh sorry Sir, we don't do those any more, you need another new toilet..."?
I’m thinking about the water inlet etc – are they an absolute pain in the jacksie to install on this type, or do you just use a flexible pipe, connect to the cistern, then lower the cistern into place with the pipe already connected?
Oh - and some toilets have kind of non-standard (eg square) seats - if I chose one of these, would I be storing up trouble for myself in the future when it might have to be replaced - "Oh sorry Sir, we don't do those any more, you need another new toilet..."?
That link shows a diagram of the dimensions of the unit, however, the most important dimensions are missing... The spigot height and distance from the wall!
You'll need these to determine what type of pan connector you'll need... Probably a flexi pan con as you'll have to push both ends on before sliding the pan back to the wall... Same goes for the inlet supply... Flexi hose, connect both ends, turn water on and then side whole unit back to wall... This is when it's useful to have a cistern that can be isolated inside the cistern, which that product won't have.
There are better pan cons that are variable and can be fixed to the back wall by a bracket... These are rigid and allow you to push the spigot into them whilst positing the pan.
As for the seat replacement issue, it depends how long Cooke and lewis will continue to make that model. Might be worth buying a spare now, just in case!
You'll need these to determine what type of pan connector you'll need... Probably a flexi pan con as you'll have to push both ends on before sliding the pan back to the wall... Same goes for the inlet supply... Flexi hose, connect both ends, turn water on and then side whole unit back to wall... This is when it's useful to have a cistern that can be isolated inside the cistern, which that product won't have.
There are better pan cons that are variable and can be fixed to the back wall by a bracket... These are rigid and allow you to push the spigot into them whilst positing the pan.
As for the seat replacement issue, it depends how long Cooke and lewis will continue to make that model. Might be worth buying a spare now, just in case!
We have one similar to that, bought it from B&Q years ago. Both the water connection and waste outlet are flexible and there is just room to connect them then slide it into position. No problems with that but the two plastic 'bump stop' inserts under the main seat shattered after a while. Couldn't find a similar seat at the time (about 8 years ago) so I nicked two from a toilet seat in Gatwick airport! The soft close on the lid has long since packed up and as we changed the basin/vanity unit and bath a few months ago, the wife wants the toilet replaced too but I haven’t seen one that's different that I like - I don’t like pipes (hot, cold or waste) on show.
Thanks for all that info, guys. Although I can be quite pig-headed about doing everything myself, I really think I have to be realistic here, and my gut instinct is that I’d run into trouble with this one – so I’m going to ask the plumber on Monday morning what he’d charge me to fit one.
I have to say that I would never, EVER steal plastic stops from Gatwick airport… I mean, it’s nearly 400 miles from me
I have to say that I would never, EVER steal plastic stops from Gatwick airport… I mean, it’s nearly 400 miles from me
Trouble is, I’ve got a square house with square rooms. Square settee, square armchairs, square dining chairs........
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That did occur to me!
Well, popped along to Homebase earlier, as you suggested. I think, for me, this one would be better – even has the water inlet on the right side, so I might tackle it myself
Anybody notice anything undesirable about it or anything? The pedestal base, all other dimensions etc, seem just right for me, and it was OK to sit on
We looked at that one but OH thought the shape was more difficult to wipe clean so bought the 51 insteadWell, popped along to Homebase earlier, as you suggested. I think, for me, this one would be better – even has the water inlet on the right side, so I might tackle it myself
Anybody notice anything undesirable about it or anything? The pedestal base, all other dimensions etc, seem just right for me, and it was OK to sit on
Ooh... now here's a thing. This one (the cistern is sold separately) looked good in Homebase yesterday, and is on sale at a much reduced price... the only "gotcha" I can see is that the cistern has a non-standard button arrangement on top, which presumably means the entire toilet would have to be replaced if (as I suspect) it's to be discontinued...?
There again, at £18 I could afford to buy a spare cistern and keep it in the attic just in case...
Any comments, anybody?
{EDIT} - aaah, found the gotcha. the inlet pipe comes out of the floor well ouside where the toilet would sit, so couldn't be brought up inside it. Ah well, it was a nice idea for a few minutes...
{EDIT AGAIN} - just had another look, and there is a hole in the side, presumably anticipaing this problem. Hhmmm...
There again, at £18 I could afford to buy a spare cistern and keep it in the attic just in case...
Any comments, anybody?
{EDIT} - aaah, found the gotcha. the inlet pipe comes out of the floor well ouside where the toilet would sit, so couldn't be brought up inside it. Ah well, it was a nice idea for a few minutes...
{EDIT AGAIN} - just had another look, and there is a hole in the side, presumably anticipaing this problem. Hhmmm...
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The hole in the side is to allow tool access to an isolation valve.
Your idea of picking up a spare cistern is a good one.
Your idea of picking up a spare cistern is a good one.
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