New Zealand

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

I am not suggesting this. My only issue is with transitioned athletes competing at all. I really think we have to say to women that transitioned from men, sorry, you cannot compete against women that have always been women. That is the only fair way.

But what if they have always been fundamentally women?

 

[JohnD]

If she has always been fundamentally female,

she hasn't

why do you keep throwing in this nonsense?

 

[JohnD]

But what if they have always been fundamentally women?

A woman is an adult human female.

 

[JohnD]

The question could be defined as: can a female, who has been competing in men's events, compete in a woman's event?

that's a silly definition, and it is not the question anyone is asking.

Do you know what a female is?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

she hasn't

why do you keep throwing in this nonsense?

Do you have access to her test results and medical history?
Why do you keep making claims based on the scarcest of detail?

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

that's a silly definition, and it is not the question anyone is asking.

Do you know what a female is?

It's an equally valid question as yours, if the athlete is fundamentally a woman.
Second thoughts, it's a more valid question than yours, if the athlete is fundamentally a women.
We don't have sufficient information to answer that 'if' question.
Well, I don't and you don't appear to.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

A woman is an adult human female.

Do you know what a female is?

You're being unnecessarily condescending.
This is a rational discussion, except for the ridiculous comments from transam, can we keep it like that.

 

[transam]

Next olympics

woman’s 100 m final all the competitors are wearing a jock strap

Organisers in shock as no spectators turn up for the woman’s beach volleyball final

 

[transam]

Cleaning staff at olympics demand extra wages for having to clean the woman’s toilets

due to woman missing the WC pan

they demand that urinals are installed in all woman’s changing rooms

 

[JohnD]

You're being unnecessarily condescending.

Well?

Do you?

Do you know what a female is, and what a woman is?

Is it any person who says the magic words "I am a woman?"

 

[fillyboy]

Organisers in shock as no spectators turn up for the woman’s beach volleyball final

 

[transam]

The Saudis send woman athletes to the olympics for the first time

Dutch commentator asks why they all have beards

 

[EFLImpudence]

 

[JP_]

The test that was conducted on her suggests that her testosterone levels were below that of a man, and nearer to an average female level.

at what age? 16, or 42?

 

[transam]

Top tennis player transgenders and becomes the only person on the planet

to win an Olympic gold medal as a bloke and as a woman