Not before time?

[raebhoop]

Waddya think?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...king-cash-payment-tackle-epidemic-thefts.html

 

[gregers]

oh dear,think thats going to rattle a few peeps,especially if there's a paper trail.
me thinks the good ole tax man is going to be rubbing his hands in glee.

 

[Infidel]

That isn't going stop people paying cash for a serious amount of scrap at a reduced amount of course.
Cashless price say £5000 ,Cash price £2000, you just nicked it and want to off it what you going to do? Scrapies all over the country are rubbing their hands with glee.

 

[ladylola]

Gregers has hit the nail on the head I think. This is more about raising tax money than any real attempt to stop crime.

 

[joe-90]

You've all got it wrong. The established yards are all above board. The illegal yards are the problem. They set up, deal, then shut up shop and ship all their scrap abroad. The Police can't search them without a warrant - and they are gone by then.

 

[ladylola]

So give the police the power to search these "illegal" yards rather than punishing the honest plumber taking in his offcuts for a bit of beer money.

 

[joe-90]

You'd need an act of parliament for that and it's not possible to draft such loose legislation.

 

[libby lou lou]

You've all got it wrong. The established yards are all above board. The illegal yards are the problem. They set up, deal, then shut up shop and ship all their scrap abroad. The Police can't search them without a warrant - and they are gone by then.

I now sell my stolen scrap to a man that works there, he pays me £90 instead of £100, problem solved.

Pinch a bit more to make up.

 

[conny]

You've all got it wrong. The established yards are all above board. The illegal yards are the problem. They set up, deal, then shut up shop and ship all their scrap abroad. The Police can't search them without a warrant - and they are gone by then.

I now sell my stolen scrap to a man that works there, he pays me £90 instead of £100, problem solved.

Pinch a bit more to make up.

Oh what an admission to make on a public forum!
You really should think first Libby.

 

[Corgigrouch]

You'd need an act of parliament for that and it's not possible to draft such loose legislation.

But every van that carries waste from a job must carry a wast permit... The police see a van headed towards a scrappy, stop it for a routine check or perhaps the rear brakelight is out and hey presto, may I see your waste permit Sir?... No permit sir? and where has this statue of Winston Churchill come from?..... Winnie gets welded back into place and the Transit gets crushed.

 

[raebhoop]

You'd need an act of parliament for that and it's not possible to draft such loose legislation.

But every van that carries waste from a job must carry a wast permit... The police see a van headed towards a scrappy, stop it for a routine check or perhaps the rear brakelight is out and hey presto, may I see your waste permit Sir?...
No permit sir? and where has this statue of Thatcher come from?....Cop opens scrapyard gates for him.

 

[joe-90]

You'd need an act of parliament for that and it's not possible to draft such loose legislation.

But every van that carries waste from a job must carry a wast permit... The police see a van headed towards a scrappy, stop it for a routine check or perhaps the rear brakelight is out and hey presto, may I see your waste permit Sir?... No permit sir? and where has this statue of Winston Churchill come from?..... Winnie gets welded back into place and the Transit gets crushed.

Stop every van driver on every journey? We need a million more cops then.

 

[ladylola]

Stop every van driver on every journey? We need a million more cops then.

Well that would solve a third of the unemployment problem as well. You really should look at getting into politics Joe

 

[libby lou lou]

You've all got it wrong. The established yards are all above board. The illegal yards are the problem. They set up, deal, then shut up shop and ship all their scrap abroad. The Police can't search them without a warrant - and they are gone by then.

I now sell my stolen scrap to a man that works there, he pays me £90 instead of £100, problem solved.

Pinch a bit more to make up.

Oh what an admission to make on a public forum!
You really should think first Libby.

Thats just an example, i am a buyer really

 

[joinerjohn]

Easy way round it is for scrap dealers to insist on photo ID off everyone bringing scrap in to their yard. As for the waste carriers licence, I used to collect scrap off some jobs and save it up, then take it in my car. Do I really need a waste carriers licence for that? Would I then need one to take some DIY waste to the council tip? Does ordinary Joe Public need a waste licence when they take anything to the council tip?
Nahhhhh didn't think so.