Now Putin is really bricking it

[JohnD]

Meanwhile, Putin supporters spread carefully faked propaganda.




"Simple observation can also expose fake news. For example, this video blogger has been fooled that a Ukrainian IED attack has killed three civilians in a car. Researchers noted the scene had been staged, with bullet holes visible rather than ones caused by shrapnel, and the corpses showing signs of being previously autopsied, meaning they had probably been supplied by a local mortuary."
https://www.ft.com/content/829b337a-d593-4550-bee1-bd0d0034d020

"Higgins said increased access to satellite imagery, combined with geolocation data, meant it was taking less time to debunk fake footage, the truth being discovered in as little as an hour now."

 

[Vinty]

signs of being previously autopsied, meaning they had probably been supplied by a local mortuary

The bodies in the video are burnt to crisp, how can you tell that they have been previously been autopsied.
Also ball bearings when used as shrapnel in in I.E.Ds can give the appearance of bullet holes.
Satellite imagery and geolocation data were used as proof that Saddam Hussein was producing chemical weapons in Iraq.

The Americans showed satellite pictures of an alleged chemical weapon facility and decontamination truck in Iraq.
When the site was investigated by weapons inspectors, it turned the alleged weapons factory and truck were nothing more than a baby food factory and milk tanker.

You seem to believe that only Russians are killing innocent people in Ukraine.

 

[IT Minion]

The bodies in the video are burnt to crisp, how can you tell that they have been previously been autopsied.
Also ball bearings when used as shrapnel in in I.E.Ds can give the appearance of bullet holes.
Satellite imagery and geolocation data were used as proof that Saddam Hussein was producing chemical weapons in Iraq.

The Americans showed satellite pictures of an alleged chemical weapon facility and decontamination truck in Iraq.
When the site was investigated by weapons inspectors, it turned the alleged weapons factory and truck were nothing more than a baby food factory and milk tanker.

You seem to believe that only Russians are killing innocent people in Ukraine.

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/202...ing-dubious-footage-from-ukraines-frontlines/

Russia have been producing faked footage for ages. Have a look at the Bellingcat database and try to dispute the findings. I doubt you'll manage.

I believe that particular story was written up here

https://www.grid.news/story/misinfo...sian-disinformation-spreads-chaos-in-ukraine/

 

[Vinty]

https://www.bellingcat.com/news/202...ing-dubious-footage-from-ukraines-frontlines/

Russia have been producing faked footage for ages. Have a look at the Bellingcat database and try to dispute the findings. I doubt you'll manage.

It isn't only the Russians who indulge in fake news is it.
The Russians just aren't very good at fake news, that is why they get caught out so often.
Both sides are commiting atrocities in Ukraine but it seems only crimes committed by Russian separatists are highlighted.

 

[IT Minion]

It isn't only the Russians who indulge in fake news is it.
The Russians just aren't very good at fake news, that is why they get caught out so often.
Both sides are commiting atrocities in Ukraine but it seems only crimes committed by Russian separatists are highlighted.

Put up or shut up.

Which Ukrainian videos or news do you think is faked? What atrocities are you thinking of?

Perhaps it's the videos of Russian prisoners letting their families know they're alive, in Ukraine and also prisoners of a 'peace keeping operation'.

You've always been Pro Russia but this is just pathetic. They've launched an invasion and are now threatening to use nuclear weapons.

 

[Vinty]

Put up or shut up.

Which Ukrainian videos or news do you think is faked? What atrocities are you thinking of?

Perhaps it's the videos of Russian prisoners letting their families know they're alive, in Ukraine and also prisoners of a 'peace keeping operation'.

Your use of the Bellingcat outfit as a source is as about as reliable as the Daily Mail or Sun newspaper.

 

[transam]

The Russians are masters of fake news

failing that it’s just a flat denial of what they did

there is some British woman fruit cake who has promoted no end of fake news in Syria with ref to Assad and the Russian atrocities

she seems to be some type of expert on the white helmets that were out there

woman’s a total fruit cake

can’t think of her name

 

[Vinty]

prisoners letting their families know they're alive

Classic propaganda.
The Nazis used the same shtick.
They showed footage of Jews sunbathing or playing tennis in the concentration camps.

 

[transam]

Classic propaganda.
The Nazis used the same shtick.
They showed footage of Jews sunbathing or playing tennis in the concentration camps.

thats true

also I believe an Aushswitz orchestra ? And a gardening club ?

 

[transam]

Putin may well be playing the

mad deranged un predictable card

??

dependant on what one reads ? Nixon played a similar (ish) card during Vietnam

nuclear option was discussed ? Mentioned ?

May be coincidence but when Vietnam fell Nixon was out of office ( resigned)

 

[IT Minion]

Classic propaganda.
The Nazis used the same shtick.
They showed footage of Jews sunbathing or playing tennis in the concentration camps.

So, the Russians in question weren't captured?

You still haven't given a single example of some made up fake news from Ukraine. Or the attrocities you mentioned.

You've always been a consistent defender of Russia, why do they have your love, just rooting for the under-bear seems unlikely.

 

[securespark]

The bodies in the video are burnt to crisp, how can you tell that they have been previously been autopsied.
Also ball bearings when used as shrapnel in in I.E.Ds can give the appearance of bullet holes.
Satellite imagery and geolocation data were used as proof that Saddam Hussein was producing chemical weapons in Iraq.

The Americans showed satellite pictures of an alleged chemical weapon facility and decontamination truck in Iraq.
When the site was investigated by weapons inspectors, it turned the alleged weapons factory and truck were nothing more than a baby food factory and milk tanker.

You seem to believe that only Russians are killing innocent people in Ukraine.

Skull looks like it has been previously chopped open.

 

[Bod ...]

He was after a demilitarized buffer zone between Russia and NATO. I bet he has a fluffy white cat that sits on his lap as he strokes it.

I see that in a film once

 

[JohnD]

He was after a demilitarized buffer zone between Russia and NATO....

However, if he extends the Russian Empire into Ukraine, he will be closer to major NATO countries.

 

[IT Minion]

However, if he extends the Russian Empire into Ukraine, he will be closer to major NATO countries.

He won't go for full integration. The Donbas and luhansk regions might get swallowed but he'll parcel off some of it to Belarus and then leave a puppet government in charge of the remainder.

He said more or less as much pre invasion.