Petition to get rid of the Lords

[JohnD]

Hint: Corbyn had the lowest vote to seat conversion ratio for decades.

That is an effect of the way the constituencies work, it has nothing to do with his abilities or popularity.

Hint: Corbyn has the biggest swing in decades, with a 9.6% increase in proportion of votes gained, and 10.3% in England.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Results_breakdown_of_the_United_Kingdom_general_election,_2017

The reason the cons are so terrified of Corbyn is that the cliff-edge design of the UK system means that he only needs to score a small additional swing in the next election to achieve a thundering majority, and a lot of the cons will be out of a job.
They are right to be scared. You only have to look at the remaining right-wing media to see they keep up a constant barrage of propaganda attacks to keep their (mostly elderly) supporters on their toes.

Luckily for the cons, there are still plenty of ignorant and ill-educated people around, and tory policies for state education of the poor will maintain the supply. As the FT says, "In short: better-educated people tend to vote for leftwing or centrist causes, while those who never went to university are more likely to vote for rightwing or populist parties."
https://www.ft.com/content/dac3a3b2-4ad7-11e7-919a-1e14ce4af89b

 

[JohnD]

Who'd like to guess when there has been a swing as big as Corbyn achieved?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swing_(United_Kingdom)#Measurements

 

[Notch7]

right-wing media to see they keep up a constant barrage of propaganda attacks

Yes ok.

Did you see the jewish labour MPs in parliament last week telling the appalling abuse they have suffered. What did Corbyn do?.....nothing.

Do you want to claim its just a RW smear?

Did you see all the criticism Corbyn received from his own party about his response to the Salisbury attack.

Corbynistas are thinking whether they need a different leader, one with less political baggage to take the party forward.

Labour is a deeply split party, the squabbling is startinh to appear.

The RW press are also hugely critical of the current government, not just Corbyn.

 

[Notch7]

Who'd like to guess when there has been a swing as big as Corbyn achieved?

The ratio between votes won and seats won was lower in 2017 than at any other election since 1959, when Labour polled 43.8 per cent of the vote but won just 258 seats.

The findings suggest Labour’s increase in vote share was largely a result of the party stockpiling support in seats it already held. That will come as a boost to opponents of Mr Corbyn who have argued that he is popular among traditional Labour voters but is unable to win over enough swing voters to deliver a parliamentary majority.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...-years-jeremy-corbyn-tony-blair-a7840231.html

 

[Roger928]

Poor ole Jeremy will soon be put out to grass.LoL

 

[transam]

Poor ole Jeremy will soon be put out to grass.LoL

In the house of Lords

 

[vinty]

If they close down the House of Lords what are all these old duffers going to do with themselves during the day,
With austerity loads of nursing homes and day centres for the elderly have closed, maybe they should keep it open during the winter to give them somewhere to go for a snooze and to have others to talk to.

 

[JohnD]

Traditional labour seats, eh?

Conservative to Labour

• Battersea
• Bedford
• Brighton Kemptown
• Bristol North West
• Bury North
• Canterbury
• Cardiff North
• Colne Valley
• Crewe and Nantwich
• Croydon Central
• Derby North
• Enfield Southgate
• Gower
• High Peak
• Ipswich
• Keighley
• Kensington
• Lincoln
• Peterborough
• Plymouth Sutton and Devonport
• Portsmouth South
• Reading East
• Stockton South
• Stroud
• Vale of Clwyd
• Warrington South
• Warwick and Leamington
• Weaver Vale

 

[HawkEye244]

I hope labour do get in so they can destroy what's left of the middle class and plunge the country into civil war. Then people can finally see what they get when they keep voting bolshevism.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

so they can destroy what's left of the middle class and plunge the country into civil war.

Typical cavalier comment from a roundhead.

 

[JohnD]

bolshevism

silly hawk trumpets nonsense gleaned from what he read on a wall somewhere.

 

[ellal]

your remark has no point.

That describes precisely every post you make

 

[motorbiking]

I’d vote for fewer mps and lords with mps serving the same population size, and lords proportional to Mps say 300 mps and 100 lords. each party gets a lord for every 3 mps. fixed term.

bargain.

I’m not sure the SNP would like that though.

 

[JohnD]

I’d vote

You won't be given ths chance.

 

[big-all]

we need the house off lords to bring some balance to the extremes off any party look at blair or thatcher
it stops political parties thinking they have the god given right to impose progressivley more extreme policies