Pig-headed Prime Minister sticks to her folly.

[Deleted member 174758]

90 days limit and loss of free movement is still causing great damage to musicians and entertainment sector.

One of my neighbours is a professionsl musician. He says that getting carnets for their kit is costing them thousands of pounds extra every year and that for every trip it is necessary to apply for new work permits and visas - all because the idiots negotiating Brexit didn't request a waiver for the performing arts (the EU apparently did say that they would be open to negotiations)

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Don't you understand the term 'long game'?

Neither, it appears do you. So just what long term gain is there to be had from cutting yourself off from rhe largest market in the world which previously took more than 40% of our exports? I keep hearing Brexiteers saying that there will be long term gains, so just do you think they are then? And will they be sufficient to make up for the major short and long term losses? An answer with specifics would be good

 

[Pat ex]

An ironic (?) example of Brexit advantages in the Guardian:

Link is iffy J&K.

 

[ellal]

Neither, it appears do you. So just what long term gain is there to be had from cutting yourself off from rhe largest market in the world which previously took more than 40% of our exports? I keep hearing Brexiteers saying that there will be long term gains, so just do you think they are then? And will they be sufficient to make up for the major short and long term losses? An answer with specifics would be good

Are you crazy?

Brexiteers don't do specific answers!

They do of course express their values...

They don't care about tanking the UK economy.
They don't care if their families/friends lose their jobs and security.
They don't care if violence returns to N.I.
And they hate the young and the generations to come.
Plus they do tend to be easily fooled, a tad xenophobic, or even racist...

Brexiteers are basically both masochistic and sadistic...

Enjoying the pain they caused to themselves, and enjoying taking everyone else down with them!

 

[ellal]

One of my neighbours is a professionsl musician. He says that getting carnets for their kit is costing them thousands of pounds extra every year and that for every trip it is necessary to apply for new work permits and visas - all because the idiots negotiating Brexit didn't request a waiver for the performing arts (the EU apparently did say that they would be open to negotiations)

I have to differ with you...

It's not down to the 'negotiators', it's down to the idiots who voted for brexit and who by default put the need for those 'negotiators' in place!

Brexit is the total opposite of freedom...

It has placed a myriad of restrictions on every day life for UK citizens that was previously taken for granted!

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Link is iffy J&K.

Sorry, on my phone and links can be problematic

Kent brewery hailed as Brexit ‘export champion’ has one EU customer left

The Old Dairy Brewery, named in a government video, has seen sales slump because of excessive paperwork

www.google.com

Checked, and works on my phone

 

[Pat ex]

Sorry, on my phone and links can be problematic

Kent brewery hailed as Brexit ‘export champion’ has one EU customer left

The Old Dairy Brewery, named in a government video, has seen sales slump because of excessive paperwork

www.google.com

Checked, and works on my phone

Thanks, but that one is the same.
I played about with the url to get it to work.

Kent brewery hailed as Brexit ‘export champion’ has one EU customer left

The Old Dairy Brewery, named in a government video, has seen sales slump because of excessive paperwork

www.theguardian.com

Is that what you meant?

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Yes. They were also on radio saying that it had banjaxed their export trade and that the DTI were no use at all in giving sensible advice...

 

[Bod ...]

The Con MPs are stressed now as they scan job ads.




See also https://www.ft.com/content/55f01f1d-b16d-417e-9738-5155ee81aa10

If it is not firewalled

So do you think she should do a Uturn?

 

[JohnD]

So do you think she should do a Uturn?

I think she should resign.

She is not up to the job.

 

[JohnD]

I am not alone.

 

[Bod ...]

I think she should resign.

She is not up to the job.

OK I must have misunderstood your thread. I thought you wanted her to do a u-turn.

 

[wellyfish]

I am not alone.

View attachment 281432

The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer.

 

[JohnD]

The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer.

Is he a Conserative MP?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

This lady is not for turning.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63130852


Not yet anyway.

Lets not get bogged down with benefit reasons and criteria. Just the point. Will she turn, or wont she?