I'd prefer to retain braking ability when going down a steep hill with 2 wheels on mud and the other 2 are on a dry asphalt surface and a **** in a 4WD hurtling up the road without any intention of pulling over.
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When ABS first appeared, police vehicles had it disabled as it caused problems for them causing collisions during car chases
We had one of those, I remember it well. My parents bought it to overcome the delay between lighting the coal fire, and it producing some warmth - we only had a coal fire for heating at the time. It had a chrome dish reflector, two almost bare bars, with three separate, wide, U shaped sprung metal 'safety' bars across the front, and a single clunky switch at the back, to select 1 or 2 bars/ 1 or 2Kw, fitted with a 2pin 5amp plug. Safety, what's that?
I even remember the first time we used it - we had just come home from us being taken to a pantomime. No fire lit, the house was freezing cold, so the electric fire was plugged in temporarily. The dog was so glad to see us home, it dragged me round the living room, by then, wearing my pj's.
They are great as a fallback, but personally - I by default, always worked live, and very carefully and still do. Treat everything as live, and you cannot get caught out.
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I think that's true but,as you go on to say ...
... which, I imagine is, on balance, the lesser of the evils. Stopping in a shorter distance (without ABS) is not really a 'benefit' if the skid (without directional control) causes one to collide with something (or falling into a ditch, or whatever)
Yes, I think that was the case, although I don't know whether it remains the case. Similarly, I think they used to (and maybe still do) have the power steering disabled).
However, both of those 'undoings' relate to an extreme style of driving which one hopes is not practised by ordinary motorists
I was around the same age, and following a bath in front of the living room coal fire, and naked, I briefly sat on the hot chrome shelf thing, in front of the fire. My parents quickly bought a fireguard after that, but I wore the stripes for a long time after.
That may well be true, but I'm sure that at least some people will be 'less careful' if they believe that something is 'protecting them'.
We see that, for example, with vaccines,none of which is "100% effective" in preventing infection- yet many people (even the e'very vulnerable" feel that the fact that they have received vaccine means that they do not need to take even simple/basic precautions to to reduce their exposure to very 'high risk' situations.
My first with ABS, was the Granada, which I deliberately chose, after a very scary incident. I was returning home one evening in my then Ventura, came over the .hill to descend into the village, and it was a sheet of black ice. The car slid completely out of control, down most of the hill, luckily hitting nothing, and coming to a gentle rest at the bottom, still on the road.
In all the years since, I have never triggered the ABS in anger, only whilst deliberately provoking it, to ensure it works, on snow. On snow, I think ABS increases your braking distance, in as much as without it, you can build up a wedge of snow ahead of the tyre, to slow you, but not with ABS.
I'm not sure that ABS would have helped in that situation, would it? All ABS can do is to reduce/prevent sliding/skidding as a result of excessive braking (by 'relaxing' that braking) . If one is sliding down a sheet of black ice" (without, at last initially, any braking at all), I can't really see how ABS could help?
Yeah in a situation where no wheels have traction even with the brakes off them ABS is not able to do a thing, however I suppose there might be a a point where one or more of the wheels is able to regain traction if only the brakes were eased up a little
Reminds me of having three wisdom teeth out in hospital. I told nurse I thought I had an infection in the socket , "You can`t have! you are on antibiotics" , later the doc came around and said I had an infection, I repeated her phrase "Who told you that?" he asked, I pointed to her and he gave her the dirtiest look. LOL.
Yes, but as I implied, only if there is some braking that can be eased.
When the vehicle first starts sliding down a "sheet of black ice", there is presumably no braking yet applied (so none to 'ease') and,even if one (inappropriately, but understandable) responds to the situation by attempting to brake, ABS will still not be able to do anything, if none of the wheels had traction even before the braking started?
Oh dear!
Many people not only have, but die as a result of, bacterial infections and, presuming they had been receiving medical care, virtually all will be full of antibiotics at the time of their death!
A variant of this, from the patient rather than a health care professional, is along the lines of "I cannot possibly be pregnant because of ...."
Kind REegards, John
Not only that John but the Dr told me I needed strong pain killers and I needed a sick note for a week (prior self certification came in) and so when the second doc did the rounds in the afternoon I asked him for a weeks sick note. "Why do you need a sick note on discharge ?" I replied "because if I go back to work I will collapse!" , "Oh and who says That you will collapse?" , "Your Dad!" the second Doc was the son of the first doc, he gave me as sick note after that conversation> LOL.
It wasn`t funny though it was a real humdinger of a excruciating throbbing pain, I lost a few nights sleep with it.
It wasn`t funny though it was a real humdinger of a excruciating throbbing pain, I lost a few nights sleep with it.
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