Pound up, employment up, output up.

Absolutely agree on the narcissism point.

Juncker being a prime example then. No shrinking violet would ever have accepted such a barrage of (mostly boule shoite), fawning, non-awards, would they?

Ive never been a fan of Juncker. He was prime minister of Luxembourg for 3 terms - population about the size of Southampton. Was a major tax haven back then too.

Im not sure he is a narcissist, he is nothing like Trump
 
Non sequitur.
I've got mates who played professional football, had as big egos as you could imagine, and were nothing like Beckham or Cantona......

Apologies, yes I shouldve written a more detailed post.

What I meant to explain was that Trump displays the characteristics of somebody with narcissistic personality disorder, not something that is at all obvious in Juncker

Trump fits these:
  • Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
  • Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
  • Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
  • Exaggerate achievements and talents
  • Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
  • Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
  • Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
  • Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
  • Take advantage of others to get what they want
  • Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
  • Be envious of others and believe others envy them
  • Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
  • Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

  • Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
  • Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
  • React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
  • Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
  • Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
  • Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
  • Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation
 
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

  • Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
  • Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
  • React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
  • Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
  • Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
  • Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
  • Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation
Thankfully we don’t have anyone on here like this anymore now that @ellal has left this forum and these shores taking its partner and their highly educated and easily compliant children, to some unnamed European utopia. It has left hasn’t it?
 
Apologies, yes I shouldve written a more detailed post.

What I meant to explain was that Trump displays the characteristics of somebody with narcissistic personality disorder, not something that is at all obvious in Juncker

Trump fits these:
  • Have an exaggerated sense of self-importance
  • Have a sense of entitlement and require constant, excessive admiration
  • Expect to be recognized as superior even without achievements that warrant it
  • Exaggerate achievements and talents
  • Be preoccupied with fantasies about success, power, brilliance, beauty or the perfect mate
  • Believe they are superior and can only associate with equally special people
  • Monopolize conversations and belittle or look down on people they perceive as inferior
  • Expect special favors and unquestioning compliance with their expectations
  • Take advantage of others to get what they want
  • Have an inability or unwillingness to recognize the needs and feelings of others
  • Be envious of others and believe others envy them
  • Behave in an arrogant or haughty manner, coming across as conceited, boastful and pretentious
  • Insist on having the best of everything — for instance, the best car or office
At the same time, people with narcissistic personality disorder have trouble handling anything they perceive as criticism, and they can:

  • Become impatient or angry when they don't receive special treatment
  • Have significant interpersonal problems and easily feel slighted
  • React with rage or contempt and try to belittle the other person to make themselves appear superior
  • Have difficulty regulating emotions and behavior
  • Experience major problems dealing with stress and adapting to change
  • Feel depressed and moody because they fall short of perfection
  • Have secret feelings of insecurity, shame, vulnerability and humiliation
describes half of the CEO's I've worked with. If you've ever read Gods of Management, by Charles Handy, this is a Zeus model.

Power is concentrated in the hands of one individual, the top boss. Control radiates from the centre's use of personal contacts over procedures. The most powerful person dominates the decision making process. Proximity to the boss is vitally important as he frequently uses his network of friendships and old boys. Decisions are made quickly, but their quality depends almost entirely on Zeus and his inner circle. The Club culture's administration is small as are its costs. Investment banks and brokerage firms reflect organisations with a dominant club culture.
 
Thankfully we don’t have anyone on here like this anymore now that @ellal has left this forum and these shores taking its partner and their highly educated and easily compliant children, to some unnamed European utopia. It has left hasn’t it?
Ellal might be a bit of a misery, he isnt a narcissist.
 
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