Practicing a Consumer Unit install

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Can I familiarise myself with one of these by using a flex from a socket to mimic the incoming power?

https://www.screwfix.com/p/british-...d-high-integrity-dual-rcd-consumer-unit/216px

I would then want to have a basic ring main and lighting circuit to understand how it all hangs together.

Once I have it working with MCB + RCD, I’d want to install some RCBO.

Wanted to check whether that plan racks up before I purchase the CU. Thanks in advance.
 
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Are you intending on eventually fitting this as the main consumer unit for the house, or is this simply a 'test rig' for your own use only?
 
Although it's described as high integrity, there are no unprotected ways where you could add RCBOs.

You wouldn't fit RCBOs on the sections already protected by the RCDs.

You could adapt the board accordingly, with bits of bus bar and tri-rated cable - since it's only a test rig.
 
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As its only a test rig, there is no real need for it to be a metal consumer unit, and there are lots of cheap (and secondhand) consumer units on Ebay. A Wylex one going for around £16.50, for example.
 
I do some times wonder who buys the CU you linked to?
2 x Type A 63A 30mA RCDs
6 x Type B MCBs (2 x 6A, 1 x 16A, 2 x 32A & 1 x 40A)
Why only 63A RCD's, and no SPD, a RCBO costs £16.32 each, a MCB £3.86, a RCD £12.25 so with 6 circuits RCBO = extra £50.26 only have to loose one freezer full of food and you have spent well over that.

We are told we should fit a SPD as standard, and only if the client says they don't want one should it be omitted.

I have an old consumer unit and fuse box which I have not yet thrown out, if you live in Mid Wales, not sure why you want to practice wiring one up, can't really see the point.
 
Thanks for the offer but I am miles away from north wales.
Will the CU I linked to allow me to upgrade to RCBO’s, use a SPD and importantly, feed from a flex plugged into a socket?

Want to use this as a test rig.
 
That BG dual RCD cpnsumer unit is NOT what I would consider 'high integrity'.

My definition of high integrity should be 3 neutral bars and 3 busbars, allowing
1) a row of non-protected ways (in which RCBOs can be fitted, allowing individual RCD protection.
2) a row of protected ways, protected by RCD 1.
3) another row of protected ways, protected by RCD 2.

This is the ideal cu to get, as everything bar the RCBOs will be provided.

It will be a good test rig with RCBOs AND 2 RCDs (RCCBs) as you will be able to see exactly what happens if you get a mixed up neutral (or even two mixed up lives on a 2 gang light switch on a lighting circuit fed by two different RCDs).

The cu you are looking at is over-priced for your needs, and doesn't offer you genuine 'high integrity' options to play around with. You would be forever dismantling it to be able to simulate real-life faults.

Have a look on E-bay for something cheaper and better.
 
I would be grateful for any links to a better choice of CU please.
 
This company seems to specialise in consumer units. I have debated with my son many times as to what a consumer unit should be, and maybe before buying that is a good start.

1) Price - there is a huge difference make to make with price, but working out if worth the extra is not so easy, in the main going for a cheaper make means one can go for more features, as one can afford to fit RCBO's instead of MCB's and there is a huge difference in price of a SPD.

2) Features - some cheaper units don't have the option of using double pole switching RCBO's, door bell transformers, relays, some it seems use a MCB to feed the SPD, others don't, and to be frank still not convinced a SPD is really required. Not seen any with better than type A RCBO's with single modular width, but can get RCD's of type F, B, and S so although at first glance one says all RCBO is the way to go, there are exceptions with for example EV charging.

I have never really worked out why we have an isolator in a consumer unit, we are told by the HSE we should isolate elsewhere, so in theory we should not work in a consumer unit which is only isolated with the built in isolator, so why have one? With an independent isolator between the DNO fuse and the consumer unit which should be there so we can comply with HSE rules, why also have one in the consumer unit?

However we always seemed to fit a main isolator in any distribution unit, even over the 120 amp limit to be classed as a consumer unit.

On the bench it is easy to fit RCBO's and MCB's to a consumer unit, the terminals
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either have a section which lifts up to clamp the wire, or a plate when goes down to clamp the wire these will naturally fall open when the consumer unit is flat on the bench, however on the wall with some makes and model these can flop to closed position, clamping the wire a simply tug will confirm the wire is actually clamped, but onto the bus bar the DIN rail holds the device firm, so there is no way to test if right side of clamping bit, other than either sight, or having the terminal forced open when unscrewing it.

I think the fires in plastic consumer units were likely caused by loose connections, either bus bar wrong side of clamp, or not tightened up. We should test the terminal is not binding on threads, with experience we do tend to feel when a thread has not been formed correct, and thread is tight rather than bus bar, but if it over heats then the expansion and contracting of the treads will likely stop thread from binding, so always blamed on some one not torquing the terminal up fully, although I have seen it where all bus bar terminals were loose, seems whole sale outlet had popped the MCB's in place so the electrician had one item to carry into van, but nothing tightened up, and electrician thinking it was pre-populated did not bother checking, his fault, but easy done, it does say test all screws for tightness. Lucky it caused the cordless phones to play up, and fault found before any damage done.

I have retired now, so not up to date, I still remember the old loadmaster distribution units where you could get up to a 70 amp MCB, and the MCB looked same at the 100 amp isolator except for red sleeve on activating lever. I had a forman who thought the 100 amp marked unit was also a MCB. The old Wylex only went to 30 amp fuse, then we got a modifed version which would take one larger fuse next to the isolator, and the isolator only rated at 60 amp, hense why many DNO fuses are only 60 amp as fuse box only rated at 60 amp.

In the main CU rated at 100 amp. But often the RCD only rated at 63 amp so same problem, if the MCB's exceed 63 amp but the DNO fuse is only 60 amp then a 63 amp RCD is still OK, but what if the DNO fuse is changed? My house on a 60 amp DNO fuse likely due to having a Wylex fuse box with the isolator rated at 60 amp when I moved in, now both isolators rated at 100 amp. One before the CU and one in the CU.

But all this is found out not working with one make of distrubuion unit, but many, I can't see how working on one only will really help?
 
This company seems to specialise in consumer units. I have debated with my son many times as to what a consumer unit should be, and maybe before buying that is a good start.

1) Price - there is a huge difference make to make with price, but working out if worth the extra is not so easy, in the main going for a cheaper make means one can go for more features, as one can afford to fit RCBO's instead of MCB's and there is a huge difference in price of a SPD.

2) Features - some cheaper units don't have the option of using double pole switching RCBO's, door bell transformers, relays, some it seems use a MCB to feed the SPD, others don't, and to be frank still not convinced a SPD is really required. Not seen any with better than type A RCBO's with single modular width, but can get RCD's of type F, B, and S so although at first glance one says all RCBO is the way to go, there are exceptions with for example EV charging.

I have never really worked out why we have an isolator in a consumer unit, we are told by the HSE we should isolate elsewhere, so in theory we should not work in a consumer unit which is only isolated with the built in isolator, so why have one? With an independent isolator between the DNO fuse and the consumer unit which should be there so we can comply with HSE rules, why also have one in the consumer unit?

However we always seemed to fit a main isolator in any distribution unit, even over the 120 amp limit to be classed as a consumer unit.

On the bench it is easy to fit RCBO's and MCB's to a consumer unit, the terminals View attachment 267854 either have a section which lifts up to clamp the wire, or a plate when goes down to clamp the wire these will naturally fall open when the consumer unit is flat on the bench, however on the wall with some makes and model these can flop to closed position, clamping the wire a simply tug will confirm the wire is actually clamped, but onto the bus bar the DIN rail holds the device firm, so there is no way to test if right side of clamping bit, other than either sight, or having the terminal forced open when unscrewing it.

I think the fires in plastic consumer units were likely caused by loose connections, either bus bar wrong side of clamp, or not tightened up. We should test the terminal is not binding on threads, with experience we do tend to feel when a thread has not been formed correct, and thread is tight rather than bus bar, but if it over heats then the expansion and contracting of the treads will likely stop thread from binding, so always blamed on some one not torquing the terminal up fully, although I have seen it where all bus bar terminals were loose, seems whole sale outlet had popped the MCB's in place so the electrician had one item to carry into van, but nothing tightened up, and electrician thinking it was pre-populated did not bother checking, his fault, but easy done, it does say test all screws for tightness. Lucky it caused the cordless phones to play up, and fault found before any damage done.

I have retired now, so not up to date, I still remember the old loadmaster distribution units where you could get up to a 70 amp MCB, and the MCB looked same at the 100 amp isolator except for red sleeve on activating lever. I had a forman who thought the 100 amp marked unit was also a MCB. The old Wylex only went to 30 amp fuse, then we got a modifed version which would take one larger fuse next to the isolator, and the isolator only rated at 60 amp, hense why many DNO fuses are only 60 amp as fuse box only rated at 60 amp.

In the main CU rated at 100 amp. But often the RCD only rated at 63 amp so same problem, if the MCB's exceed 63 amp but the DNO fuse is only 60 amp then a 63 amp RCD is still OK, but what if the DNO fuse is changed? My house on a 60 amp DNO fuse likely due to having a Wylex fuse box with the isolator rated at 60 amp when I moved in, now both isolators rated at 100 amp. One before the CU and one in the CU.

But all this is found out not working with one make of distrubuion unit, but many, I can't see how working on one only will really help?

That’s an interesting post and very useful for when selecting a CU for your house I suspect.
I’ve never fitted or worked inside a consumer unit and wanted something to cut my teeth. Yes, there are many differences but I think the fundamentals are the same? The link you posted to CU’s seems pricey for a test rig.
I am after one where I can try out some of the common scenarios I mentioned - along with any others you think should be included.

Was planning to mount on a MDF board and then create some accompanying RFC and lighting circuits.
 

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