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Discussion in 'Roofing and Guttering' started by tobycgraham, 18 Dec 2019.

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    tobycgraham

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    I’ve had a small extension built on the side of my house. I have vertical tiles and I’m not happy with the way it has been finished as the tiles are not level and I’ll be sitting in my garden looking at it in the summer ! My builder says he is happy with what his roofers have done. I’ve spoken to an architect, another builder and another roofer - all have said that they wouldn’t be happy leaving the job like this. The builder has said ‘We can only measure and set out from our new extension’.
     

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    tobycgraham, good evening.

    To my eye, this corner simply does not "fit"

    Buildings externally and internally "should" present a uniform regular appearance.

    I for one would simply not be happy with this "lop-sided" corner, which has been [in my opinion] not fully thought out?

    A large generally unrecognised aspect of any "tradesman's" [dare I call it] "responsibility" is to stand back and just look at what you have done? does it "read" and simply look right??

    In this case I do not think it does

    Ken
     
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    Youve been fed some builders bulls hit.
     
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    Can I plagiarise and suggest Bulls Miss?
     
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    Thanks for the replies. How would you fix this ?
     
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    It is a bit hard to know from the pics whats gone -is there a reasom why the tiles cant just continue?

    Whatever has happened, the tiler hasnt set out correctly, hence ending up with this -in which case, the tiles need to be redone.

    Tradesmen often go wrong because rush into a job without thinking through the set out
     
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    You’re right. I believe that they have rushed into it without thinking and setting out correctly.

    The ply they’ve used goes down further on the side. Could they have combatted this by putting setting out better/using an extra bit of ply around the bottom/battening onto the brickwork ?
     
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    Why can’t the bottom 2 courses just continue across the adjacent wall to give a more uniform look? Given both the windows tops are at the same brick course

    that would also hide the dodgy bit of what looks like engineering brick and a different coloured mortar
     
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    I don’t think it is that easy. Are there any roofers on here that could confirm this ?

    As far as I understand it, each tile is individually nailed from the top to the bottom. To add another course or two, all the tiles would need to come off. Hence why the builder does not want to do it.
     
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    He shouldve done it correct to start with.

    It needs stripping off to be done correctly, in any case the double row of tiles would be wrong, so that has to be removed anyway.
     
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    its been set out wrong.
    the best method for setting out is to use eaves course tiles as the first course.
    the bottom two battens are close, and you can use a regular tile to cover the eaves tile - ie the second course.
    you set out the remaining battens from the second batten (the one with the standard tile).

    sometimes, tile hanging (esp when it finishes above any kind of frame) might need angled fillets to allow the bottom two courses to kick out a little.
    account also needs to be taken of any drip ledge thats in-situ above any frame.

    i cant make out whats behind the tile hanging?
    anyway, you should return the bottom courses around the corner and bring the two sides into line.
     
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    this is a video of what it looked like last week. I had to get them back as I couldn’t open the window. They cut the tiles around the window then left. I then got them back to cut all the tiles and put a brick in the end to protect the ply.

    Honest opinion. Is this bad work or just complete lack of thought ?
     
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    It has been set out wrong.

    Even if a step is needed to marry old and new, it should never be on an external corner.

    This is one situation where the only option is to strip back and redo.
     
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    lash up. strip it off and re do it..
     
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