Replacing Ceiling Pendant

[ant177]

Hello, I am currently trying to replace the pendants in a 1930's house. They all look like:

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• ant177
• 16 Oct 2014
• 1

I cannot for the life of me figure out how they should be removed. I have tried to run a knife around the edges in case they're just screwed in place and had been painted "shut" but no luck.
I don't want to keep them so I will consider destructive removal but I am worried about what that will do to the ceiling?

Does anyone recognise this type of fitting and have any suggestions about removal?

Thanks,
Anthony

 

[flameport]

The domed part unscrews, the smaller flat piece contains the electrical connections and is fixed into the ceiling with 2 screws.
The larger flat piece against the ceiling is just a decorative ring.

http://www.flameport.com/electric_museum/old_wiring_accessories/volex_ceiling_rose.cs4

 

[ant177]

That appears to be the one, I'll try that this evening. I was trying to unscrew the second part that is screwed to the ceiling...

How will the final part be fixed to the ceiling do you think? Or is it just held in by the middle bit?

Amusing to see that this is listed in an electrical "museum" site!

Thank you for the quick response.

 

[Taylortwocities]

Those are right little bar stewards, espaecially if they have beenpainted over a few times through the decades.

TTC's solution

turn off the power at the MAIN SWITCH

put on goggles

remove the item from the ceiling using this precision tool

 

[sparkwright]

Before you start taking all the pendants down, you should check to see what your wiring is like.

Clearly it's old.

There may not be an earth present.

Or it could even be rubber cable that will need replacing.

If either or both of the above, it will be over-due for replacement - especially if it's rubber.

 

[Adam_151]

Try the old trick of knocking the rose cover with the handle of your screwdriver.