Right angle in cable run - is this OK?

[DavidA1982]

I'm having my house renovated. I came home and saw this. The right angle run is for a socket on the wall. Is this OK? I thought you could only run cables in straight horizontal or vertical lines. This looks obviously dangerous to me, but is it compliant with the regs?

(FYI, the chase down from the ceiling is for coaxial cable from an aerial).


Thanks!

David

 

[EFLImpudence]

It would be ok if something else is going in the hole near the bottom - otherwise, not.

 

[DavidA1982]

No, the only thing going on that chimney breast is a socket (cable coming up from the floor) and an aerial point (cable coming down from the ceiling).

Before I challenge the electrician - there is no way this is OK, is there?

 

[EFLImpudence]

No. Definitely not acceptable as it is.

To make it compliant with the regulations, you could fit another accessory in the hole which looks like where there used to be one, here:

However, if this is a spur from a ring circuit, only one socket is allowed.
If it is a radial circuit, no problem.

I presume you do not actually want one but a socket is always useful.

To show the likelihood of a buried cable (when finished) you need an accessory somewhere on the vertical run.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

I did at first wonder if this was something uncovered by the renovations, or done as part of them, but I guess from post #3 that it's the latter?

If so, then...

Before I challenge the electrician

He is not an electrician.

If he tells you he is, then he is lying.

If the people doing the renovation work tell you he is, then they are lying.

I'm having my house renovated.

Tell them they won't see a penny from you unless they employ genuinely competent tradesmen.

 

[Adam_151]

How far is the chase from that external corner?

More than 6" or less than 6"?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

To make it compliant with the regulations, you could fit another accessory in the hole which looks like where there used to be one

Not if it just sits there - it has to be connected to the cable.

 

[EFLImpudence]

To make it compliant with the regulations, you could fit another accessory in the hole which looks like where there used to be one

Not if it just sits there - it has to be connected to the cable.

Yes, that's what I meant.

Another socket if allowed.

 

[EFLImpudence]

How far is the chase from that external corner?
More than 6" or less than 6"?

That does not apply to external corners.

 

[Funkyfreddy]

No. Definitely not acceptable as it is.

To make it compliant with the regulations, you could fit another accessory in the hole which looks like where there used to be one, here:
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However, if this is a spur from a ring circuit, only one socket is allowed.
If it is a radial circuit, no problem.

I presume you do not actually want one but a socket is always useful.

To show the likelihood of a buried cable (when finished) you need an accessory somewhere on the vertical run.

Apologies for the hijack...

..if that trunking was running T&E from below the floor up the wall vertically and into the loft space would that be OK or would it also need a socket to highlight its existence ?

Thanks

FF

 

[ban-all-sheds]

The latter.

[wiki]electrics%3Awalls[/wiki]

 

[Adam_151]

That does not apply to external corners.

Its late, and my thinking cap is about worn out for tonight... but an surely an external corner is still an "an angle formed by two adjoining walls or partitions"

So in general there is nothing to stop it applying to external corners in general.... however one could, I suppose, argue here that the chimney breast does not constitute another wall, but rather a feature not too dis-similar to a butress in the wall. *shrugs*

 

[flameport]

Top of the second page: https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Technical/NICEIC/Cables_Concealed_1.pdf
External corners are permitted zones for cables.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Apologies to Adam - if I'm wrong.

I don't mean to sound disingenuous but are you sure that's correct?
Is it shown anywhere other than a NICEIC publication?

 

[Spark123]

Who is Andy?