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Right angle in cable run - is this OK?

Thanks all. Having read all of that, I think the position is that what he has done is not compliant unless:

1. The chimney Breast is treated as a wall and so its corners treated like external corners; and

2 the vertical cable is no more than 150mm from the edge of the chimney.

I'll measure it tonight.
 
I don't mean to sound disingenuous but are you sure that's correct?
The way the reg is worded, external corners would comply, but...

Is it shown anywhere other than a NICEIC publication?
I don't believe that it's been seen anywhere except in that publication, so as the reg is all about managing expectations of where cables might be, for reasons of safety, for one isolated source to introduce an arrangement which nobody else uses doesn't seem safe to me.
 
http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php?title=Safe_zones_for_electric_cables

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Mmmm, too.

Whilst it would seem that what is written is open to this interpretation and 270° is indeed an angle, why does the regulation not just say within 150mm. from the edge of a wall - as it does just say within 150mm. from the top of a wall?

Logically, because it doesn't say the edge of a wall, this would not be allowed but what is the difference?

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Non-compliance with regulations doesn't necessarily constitute a "danger" :unsure:
Possibly not. But running cables in places where people don't expect them does seem a trifle dangerous, wouldn't you agree?
 
At a quess i would say that its there, because he reused the existing hole route to get the cable out from under the floor, it looks like there was a socket there previous.
I wonder if he has just jointed on to that cable under the floor
 
Could the electrican have run the cable that way to avoid tv mounting bracket fixing bolts if you are having the tv on wall?

Daniel.
Possibly. He was very certain that the best place for the socket was in the centre of the chimney - you can probably see the mark on the wall where I had asked for it to be put originally.

In any case - even if that was his intention and it is a good one, it is still not compliant is it? The cables are more than 200mm from the edge of the chimney breast too (see image). (this is the other bedroom)
 

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The lesser of the evils?

I would get the electrician to fit a single socket on the vertical run.

Some will say this (if the cable is a spur) is still not compliant but with just a TV (and similar) in the double socket, it will not overload the cable.



Why are there two conduits in the recent picture?
 
The lesser of the evils?

I would get the electrician to fit a single socket on the vertical run.

Some will say this (if the cable is a spur) is still not compliant but with just a TV (and similar) in the double socket, it will not overload the cable.



Why are there two conduits in the recent picture?
Thanks - good question. I will investigate.

It shouldn't be a spur, should it? I would imagine that it is best practice to put all sockets on the ring circuit when doing a full rewire, which is the case here. It seems a bit lazy to use spurs, and reduces the ability to add sockets in future. Or am I being unrealistic?
 
It shouldn't be a spur, should it?
It would be if I was doing it.
Just twice as much cable for no benefit - electrically.
Are there two cables in the TV box? Doesn't look like it but not clear.

I would imagine that it is best practice to put all sockets on the ring circuit when doing a full rewire, which is the case here. It seems a bit lazy to use spurs, and reduces the ability to add sockets in future.
Others here will agree with you.

Or am I being unrealistic?
Yes. Other views are available. :)


What you could do - (if it is a spur) is replace the cable from the ring (supposedly just beneath the floor) to the proposed single socket with 4mm² cable.
This would then be totally compliant.
 

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