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Road tax on a mobility scooter?

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Certain types of mobility vehicles and powered wheelchairs are exempt from tax provided they meet the following criteria:
  • They have been fitted with a limited device that stops them going over 4mph on footways
  • While on the road, they have a maximum speed of 8mph
How can the limiting device work out if on a footway?
And it seems they need to be registered, so that's another hurdle.

But I fail to see how any device can stop them doing over 4 MPH on footways? If manually switched, it clearly does not stop them doing over 4 MPH.
 
Far from an expert but what I have read is that there is a switch and the user is supposed to set it to the right position depending on where the vehicle is being used.

Since I read about people 'forgetting' to change it to 4 mph when they are on a pavement I have paid a bit of attention and there are certainly some on pavements that are doing clearly more than 4 mph. I normally walk at a fair clip, probably close to 4 mph and I have seen then overtake me and pull away rapidly.
 
Shouldnt be allowed on the roads. Stick to pavements i say...
 
Problems they're fast, and heavy, and piloted by people who may not have as fast reactions as they once did and/or are confused with unfamiliar controls - they do as a result preset a reasonable chance of injury to other pavement users as a result (particularly young, elderly or infirm)
 
Shouldnt be allowed on the roads. Stick to pavements i say...
Are you either being facetious or happen to live in an area where it is completely unnecessary? Though there are the idiots/self righteous who break that rule of thumb and drive in the road when there is good pavement access.
 
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Hah, yeah maybe!

The point about the controls was in relation to most mo-sco using controls something like a quad bike thumb throttle; very different to driving a car if the OAP is a former driver. My kids' great grandfather, still with us, drove til a ripe old age (eventually gave it up when he realised he wasn't safe any more) and is still very mobile and active at 94.
He has recently seen the wisdom of using a scooter for longer treks on days out after being resistant to it (having one of us drive him for his paper etc) for long. He's a bit shaky though and largely treats the thumb throttle like an on/off thing, scrabbling for the speed control and dialling it up and down constantly where he would have once used a foot throttle in a car like one would expect, in some varying percentage open

One incident was highlight though: in a kids' play park with an uneven, humped surface to provide interest for the sprogs he was sitting watching, turned away from the controls, when he abruptly started reversing slowly at an awkward angle up one of the mounds.
We watched, coming to the realisation that he wasn't actually sure why it was happening, and started shouting to him to stop/let go of the throttle/handle bars as he's panickedly putting his feet down as it's tipping further and further over.
One of of us set off at a run and managed to reach him in time to pull his hands off the bars/throttle he'd been gripping ever tighter as he panicked but he was absolutely clueless as to why it had happened

I can't help but think that the other one we have, that I modified to have a foot throttle and steering wheel (go kart for the kids) instead of a hand one would be much safer for him because of the familiarity with the cars he drove all his life
 
Are you either being facetious or happen to live in an area where it is completely unnecessary? Though there are the idiots/self righteous who break that rule of thumb and drive in the road when there is good pavement access.
I see extremely old people tottering along busy roads doing under 5mph when there is a perfectly good pavement!!!! Its very dangerous...yet you think thats ok..

How fast can yours go?
 
The disability scooters that are capable of 8mph when not on public footpaths are speed switchable. This is not just a case of winding on more speed, but a physical switchover that cannot be selected while the scooter is in motion. While the scooter is in pavement only mode, the max speed is governed to 4MPH. It won't be too far into the future that I'll be purchasing one as a spinal problem has considerably reduced my mobility and it's not always viable to reach my destination by driving my Blur Badged car there. A scooter can reach places in and around my area that my car cannot and of course parking it is not reliant on vacant disabled parking spaces. Fortunately, my problems do not restrict me too much in my workshop or I would have adopted the Doolally-Tap before now.
 
How can the limiting device work out if on a footway?
And it seems they need to be registered, so that's another hurdle.

My recent one, is a Veleco Gravis. This is legally sold, set to max of 8mph, and has to be registered, and taxed - both free. In the EU, the same model is legally able to do 4, 8, and 16mph. Like many, most all, I have enabled the maximum 16mph/made it available, for my own personal safety, in certain situations. One of those situations, is a narrow single track bridge crossing a railway. A tight right to get on the bridge, a tight left to get off it, and zero visibility on the approach, unless you tuck yourself tight over to the left, on either approach. Numerous dumb driver, don't appreciate the lack of vision, need for care, and approach as if they intend to carry on over the bridge regardless. There are numerous occasions where two cars meet head-on, lost tempers, and one has to reverse.

My approach either on scooter, or in car, is always to tuck as far as I can to the left, then if it's free, begin to cross. On the scooter, I then move well over to the right, to both prevent anyone attempting to overtake me on the bridge (as some have been known to try), and to make oncoming vehicles see my approach sooner, make it absolutely clear I will not be giving way to them.

The speed switch, is marked 1, 2, 3, and it uses a brushless 3phase 1000w motor. The motor speed, when it is on the level, or going up an incline reaches the maximum speed setting, then will go no faster. On a downhill slope, it freewheels, and can go faster, and the motor will simply not attempt to drive.

So far as the speed setting goes, I engage common sense. On the pavement with people about, I run it on 1, or less. On a totally empty pavement, I might switch to 2. However, some pavements are so badly made, with lots of steep sideways drives, they are enough to throw you off, in which case I go on the road - as I have every right to do with a fully taxed, and registered vehicle.
 
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