Running lighting cable through airing cupboard - regs?

[Risteard]

Well, for a start, if it is (as it must be) acceptable to have the final wiring to an immersion heater in such a place, then it's hard to see why other wiring (if properly designed) should not be equally acceptable.

No it isn't. The fact that the final connection to the immersion heater can be in the hot press is simply for the reason that it cannot be anywhere else as that is where the hot water cylinder is. Furthermore the connection will be in heat resistant (e.g. butyl) flex. The actual switch/isolator is prohibited to be in the hot press.

 

[EFLImpudence]

It doesn't take much to work out what an 'airing cupboard' is.
One could assume it is a 'cupboard' where something (washing?) is 'aired'.

With no idea of the subject someone was talking about, a 'hot press' would give no indication of a cupboard.

 

[Risteard]

Deprecating English (Wiring) Rules simply because they are English is not a sensible approach

I didn't. I very clearly stated that there were aspects of each which were better.

On the whole, however, I think undoubtedly the ETCI National Rules demand a higher standard of (and, of course, costlier) installation.

 

[Risteard]

If they did not have hot water cylinders in them, no-one would dream of calling mine anything other than "cupboards" - so does a cupboard cease to be a cupboard when one puts a HW cylinder in it?

I suspect you missed my statement that all "cupboards" are called presses in Ireland, e.g. kitchen press; the plates are in the press; pull-out press etc.

 

[Risteard]

 

[winston1]

As you frequently tell us you live abroad that is irrelevant.

Sadly what he tells us is a lie. He lives in the UK close to an international border. In the UK a cupboard is a cupboard not a press. The flag shown below his avatar is wrong as well.

 

[JohnW2]

No it isn't. The fact that the final connection to the immersion heater can be in the hot press is simply for the reason that it cannot be anywhere else as that is where the hot water cylinder is. Furthermore the connection will be in heat resistant (e.g. butyl) flex.

I would think that if heat-resistant cable were actually needed (electrically), that would only be because the conductors at one end will be in thermal contact with something (the terminals of the element) which may get 'very hot'. In terms of the ambient temperature in the cupboard in general (which is unlikely to be higher than, say, many a loft space in summer) is concerned, heat-resistant cable is generally not needed (electrically speaking), provided only that its CSA is adequate.

 

[JohnW2]

I suspect you missed my statement that all "cupboards" are called presses in Ireland,

I didn't miss it, but I did misunderstand it. Given the context, I thought you were talking about "airing cupboards", not "cupboards" in general. However, I've learned something - since I can't say that I had noticed my family-in-law referring to cupboards in general as "presses".