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Running lighting cable through airing cupboard - regs?

Discussion in 'Electrics UK' started by Alcedema, 7 Aug 2019.

  1. Alcedema

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    Hi, I am adding a light into the loft and luckily for me, the existing upstairs switch is on the opposite side of the airing cupboard wall. For ease, I am thinking of running the switch cable (1mm) down through the airing cupboard ceiling and through the wall into the switch box. Are there any special considerations like size of cable (the only other cables in there are flex, this for temperatures?), securing to wall (clips or trunking) and the hole itself through the wall, does this need to be sealed or grommited?

    Thanks!
     
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    I would protect the cables with conduit to prevent damage from heavy items that might get tossed into the airing cupboard
     
  3. JohnW2

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    No specific regulatory requirements other than, as has been said, the need to protect the cable for any anticipatable mechanical damage. Any cable should be clipped/secured in some way - not just 'flapping around. Even 1mm² cable is so over-specified for a light switch that there are no issues regarding cable size. If the hole in the wall has, or may have, sharp edges, then some measure (any measure which does the job) to prevent that damaging the cable should be utilised.

    Kind Regards, John
     
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    Thanks guys, perfect and very quick responses!
     
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    Was always the preferred route to the loft on council rewires
     
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    Incidentally ET101 is much, much stricter about what can go in a hot press.
     
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    But that relates to a foreign country and has no relavence to this query that came from ESSEX, ENGLAND, UNITED KINGDOM.

    Why do you keep posting irrelavent stuff?????.
    You may as well tell us that 230volts 50HZ is not used in installations in MEXICO. Good grief.
     
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    It's not irrelevant.

    It shows why it may not be good practice to install electrical equipment in a hot press other than the final connection to the immersion heater etc.

    Do you think that the ETCI inserted the Rule into ET101 for absolutely no reason?

    Do you think that Irish hot presses are inherently dissimilar to English ones that such an approach is no longer valid?

    I await your grovelling apology.

    The simple fact is that the ETCI National Rules for Electrical Installations are superior in many ways to the IEE (aka IET) Wiring Regulations. In some other ways perhaps the IEE Wiring Regs are better. We can learn things from different standards. And strive to create better electrical installations.

    Deprecating Irish Wiring Rules simply because they are Irish is not a sensible approach.
     
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    Who mentioned a press. It is an airing cupboard, not a clothes press..........
     
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    "Cupboards" as you call them are called presses in Ireland.

    The ridiculous phrase "airing cupboard" is here correctly known as a hot press. I had never heard of a so-called "airing cupboard" until about two years ago. I actually wouldn't have had a clue that you were attempting to refer to a hot press.
     
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    Well, for a start, if it is (as it must be) acceptable to have the final wiring to an immersion heater in such a place, then it's hard to see why other wiring (if properly designed) should not be equally acceptable.

    If the design of the wiring takes into account the ambient temperature and, if necessary, the need for mechanical protection of wiring, in what ways would it be 'bad practice' to have that wiring in an airing cupboard?
     
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    That word "hot" suggests that the use of insulation on the hot water cylinder is not common,
     
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    If they did not have hot water cylinders in them, no-one would dream of calling mine anything other than "cupboards" - so does a cupboard cease to be a cupboard when one puts a HW cylinder in it?
     
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    Deprecating English (Wiring) Rules simply because they are English is not a sensible approach, and much more frequently done by you than we do the Irish.

    I did not know what a hot press was until I read relatively recently.

    As you frequently tell us you live abroad that is irrelevant.
     
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    It so happens that I did, since half of my wife's family are Irish, but I've never heard an airing cupboard called that by anyone English.

    I suppose its fairly logical. Although the word is rarely used these days, historically (in England) a 'press' is/was a piece of furniture used to store linen etc. - so I suppose that if it is 'heated', then 'hot press' is not an illogical term!

    Kind Regards, John
     
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