Scrapping Human Rights

[Lower]

People I would regard as left of center are coming to the conclusion that there is a problem with serious offenders and asylum. It’s not a new issue but when the main stream media focus on these headlines people think it’s a bigger problem than home grown crime.

I think people are also coming to the conclusion that the mass influx of immigrant, legal or otherwise, s is changing the fundamental make up of the country in a direction that they don't want it to go.

Reform and the Conservatives have realised this and are using it to their benefit, and i also think its has a lot to do with why labour is so unpopular in the UK at the moment. Lots of Labour supporters are starting to lean towards Reform.

But this isn't just limited to the UK. People in the US and Europe are also starting to realise how mass migration is changing their countries in ways that they don't like.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I think people are also coming to the conclusion that the mass influx of immigrant, legal or otherwise, s is changing the fundamental make up of the country in a direction that they don't want it to go.

Reform and the Conservatives have realised this and are using it to their benefit, and i also think its has a lot to do with why labour is so unpopular in the UK at the moment. Lots of Labour supporters are starting to lean towards Reform.

But this isn't just limited to the UK. People in the US and Europe are also starting to realise how mass migration is changing their countries in ways that they don't like.

But it's not just a UK issue, it's world wide.

Rhetoric and shouting doesn't change anything.

It needs a world wide (or at least Europe wide) solution

 

[motorbiking]

So it wasn't the wrong one, it was the right one?

Or was it the wrong one?

Make your mind up

She had valid residency permit properly applied for
she was lawfully living in Sweden.
She was married.
her visa was linked to her US passport

Imagine what might happen if your passport is replaced/renewed etc?

That would result in your visa not matching your passport and being technically incorrect.

I don't think anyone would expect to get deported in that situation, maybe a fine and told to apply for a new one or perhaps given a temporary one until the new one came through.

Nope - bye bye.

Sweden is not all Abba and love.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

She had valid residency permit properly applied for
she was lawfully living in Sweden.
She was married.
her visa was linked to her US passport

Imagine what might happen if your passport is replaced/renewed etc.

That would result in your visa not matching your passport and being technically incorrect.

I don't think anyone would expect to get deported in that situation, maybe a fine and told to apply for a new one or perhaps given a temporary one until the new one came through.

Nope - bye bye.

So was it the right one or wasn't it ?

 

[motorbiking]

So was it the right one or wasn't it ?

see line 1.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

see line 1.

Was it the right 1 or wasn't it ?

 

[motorbiking]

Was it the right 1 or wasn't it ?

she had obtained the correct visa when she moved to Sweden.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

boll@x - I have had to help one of my team, who lived in Sweden, with his wife fight the immigration process. He had to relocate to a different EU country, because they deported his wife. Yes his Wife!

As usual - you haven't a clue.

At least it was the right visa though

 

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But it's not just a UK issue, it's world wide.

Rhetoric and shouting doesn't change anything.

It needs a world wide (or at least Europe wide) solution

I'm sure it does need a world wide solution, but i don't want to wait for the rest of the world work out how to solve the problem. Our country and our population need to be put first by our politicians.

Working out how to fix the world wide problem can run in tandem or follow on later.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I'm sure it does need a world wide solution, but i don't want to wait for the rest of the world work out how to solve the problem. Our country and our population need to be put first by our politicians.

And how do you think we can do that in isolation.

Stand on the beaches and shout "no entry"

Put some signs on the other beaches ?

 

[Lower]

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And how do you think we can do that in isolation.

Stand on the beaches and shout "no entry"

Put some signs on the other beaches ?

Other countries, even those in the EU, are taking a firmer line than us. The asylum seeker that the BBC had on question time the lasta week for example. He'd already applied for asylum in numerous countries and been denied it. Yet we're willing to accept him. Why?

But its not just boat crossings, it's the rules that we have for allowing legal immigration that need tightening too.

I would vote to leave the ECHR and that doesn't mean i'm a racist that doesn't think immigrants should have rights. It means i don't think that they should have all the rights they currently have.

 

[noseall]

Motorgrifting is a proven LIAR

Are you new here?

 

[Notch7]

it's the rules that we have for allowing legal immigration that need tightening too.

it mostly has I think.

the very high net migration in recent years was a direct result of the Boris Johnson administration.

Ironically it happened because they panicked that the end of FoM as we left the EU single market was likely to result in a shortage of labour and thus a shock to the economy


It has now been reduced to pre 2015 levels (largely I accept as a result of Tories reversing their policies)

I understand the visas rules for special occupations, esp on carers work visas was not properly policed and people were coming here and not working as carers

In regards to the higher education visas and dependents, it was too generous, but it did lead to plenty of money coming here by means of foreign student fees



We should be aware that tough immigration rules has and will damage the economy -which the Labour govt will be blamed for

 

[Notch7]

I would vote to leave the ECHR and that doesn't mean i'm a racist that doesn't think immigrants should have rights. It means i don't think that they should have all the rights they currently have.

The only 2 European countries not in ECHR: Russia and Belarus

I worry about leaving an international human rights court.............British citizens need protection from UK government



"The way a Government treats refugees is very instructive because it shows you how they would treat the rest of us if they thought they could get away with it," (Tony Benn)


if you think that over dramatic have a look at America -that is a country on the edge of dangerous authoritarianism. They have unbadged ICE agents going around picking off anybody who looks foreign.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

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Other countries, even those in the EU, are taking a firmer line than us. The asylum seeker that the BBC had on question time the lasta week for example. He'd already applied for asylum in numerous countries and been denied it. Yet we're willing to accept him. Why?

But its not just boat crossings, it's the rules that we have for allowing legal immigration that need tightening too.

I would vote to leave the ECHR and that doesn't mean i'm a racist that doesn't think immigrants should have rights. It means i don't think that they should have all the rights they currently have.

I don't disagree with too much of that.

But I don't think leaving the echr is the right move. Update it, tighten it. Enforce OUR immigration rules, but don't throw away hard earned rights.


But the biggest part is to join forces to stop the mass movement in the 1st place. Attack it uniformally