Should Children be vaccinated?

[Notch7]

Proof please

There’s loads of proof, you are playing games.

One such concern is the persistent nature of the symptoms that some people experience. In the UK, an estimated 1.1 million (1.69% of the total population) reported symptoms persisting more than four weeks after the first suspected infection – that's 1 in 5 people who tested positive for COVID-19
https://www.health.org.uk/news-and-comment/blogs/what-might-long-covid-mean-for-the-nations-health

A study of over half a million adults in England found that one in 20 had persistent COVID-19 symptoms
https://www.imperial.ac.uk/news/224853/over-million-adults-england-have-long/

 

[ellal]

There’s loads of proof, you are playing games.

No games...

Sadly people like yourself don't realise that the list of 'symptoms' of the 'virus' is so long that it covers virtually any other illness known to humankind...

But are at the same time happy to be told, it's 'long covid' rather than another treatable disease...

The 'virus' has a very low death rate...

Care to tell us the death rate of for example cancer?

Especially when undiagnosed due to more and more resources targeted at the 'virus instead of more serious illnesses!

 

[Justin Passing]

It's a balance of risks. I'm not happy about the "Unknown unknown" aspects of the vaccines, but there are more "Unknown unknown" aspects of the virus.
See https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7927578/
Some of the damage from both is related, but looks to be worse from the virus than the vaccine. There is evidence they can rarely get long lasting effects, which nobody claims to understand.
So you have to take account of the chance of getting the virus, which has been low, but nobody has squashed Delta yet.

The Delta virus changed things a bit. It does seem you can be "exposed" to it by a fart at 50 yards. Some high number of kids will be exposed to it at school by now - every school has already had some cases and Scotland suggests it'll go round the schools again. Look at Israel - very high vaccination rates but cases are higher than they've ever been. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/israel/

If I had kids that age, somewhat reluctantly yes, I'd want them vaccinated.

 

[noseall]

If I had kids that age, somewhat reluctantly yes, I'd want them vaccinated.

Children have been vaccinated from horrible diseases for decades, almost rendering some obsolete.
Only really bad parents would withold potentially life saving treatment from their children.

 

[Justin Passing]

Sure, but this one is a different technology, hasn't been tested for as long, and the scientists are still finding out exactly what cases the (few) troubles and what to do about them. It's the unknown unknowns... even if you take away all the oddballs claiming mass infertility is inevitable. Try googlin "history of vaccine problems".
Nobody is 100% certain of much.

 

[JP_]

No, there really is plenty of proof if you search for it.

But, how can you search for anything when your head is planted firmly in the sand?

 

[ajohn]

The problem with jabs for kids is a pretty simple one.

The vaccine approval lot know about possible side effects of the vaccine and also the likely hood of having the same problems if people catch covid. Take jabs and covid away and they know the incidence of the same problems in the general population. It's a no brainer for the people currently eligible for jabs.

Then they look at kids where these problems normally scarcely happen. When they catch covid they also know the results from that. They then conclude that covid vaccine isn't medically justifiable in this age group. This is how they have been making the decision in all age groups - doing what they are supposed to do.

Another lot appear to believe that they should be vaccinated as it will reduce spread as they are / maybe a common source of spreading it. Possibly based on what happens with flu where they definitely do. As far as I am aware vaccinated people haven't yet been shown to have a shorter period where they may infect others. It's more of a that is what usually happens when people have been vaccinated for anything.

 

[Lower]

We’ve been vaccinating children against German measles for years to protect pregnant women. Why is the principle of vaccinating children for Covid any different?

 

[wobs]

No games...

Sadly people like yourself don't realise that the list of 'symptoms' of the 'virus' is so long that it covers virtually any other illness known to humankind...

But are at the same time happy to be told, it's 'long covid' rather than another treatable disease...

The 'virus' has a very low death rate...

Care to tell us the death rate of for example cancer?

Especially when undiagnosed due to more and more resources targeted at the 'virus instead of more serious illnesses!

Why do you still put the word virus in inverted commas?

 

[ellal]

Why do you still put the word virus in inverted commas?

Why are you 'concerned'?

 

[ellal]

Only really bad parents would withold potentially life saving treatment from their children.

Only really bad parents would jab their children with something that has not been fully tested on their age group, and which may be unnecessary...

The experts are divided over the issue!

A good parent would wait and see, and then when of age it's up to the then adult to decide for themselves...

Personally I'd put that age at 16, not 18.

 

[JohnD]

only really bad parents would refuse to protect their children against a serious and potentialy fatal disease who long-term effects are not yet clear, and which is both common and highly infectious.

 

[noseall]

A good parent would wait and see, and then when of age it's up to the then adult to decide for themselves...

A highly virulent killer disease is rampaging across the globe. It's tantamount to child abuse to 'wait and see'. I can't believe any parent would be that cruel.

 

[EFLImpudence]

I thought you were a builder.

 

[johnny2007]

Let's analyse the "vaccine" word.
"a substance used to stimulate the production of antibodies and provide immunity against one or several diseases, prepared from the causative agent of a disease, its products, or a synthetic substitute, treated to act as an antigen without inducing the disease."

So far we've been told that the coronavirus "vaccine" doesn't stop the virus infecting you, nor stopping it from giving you symptoms.
The only things the pharmaceutical industry claims is that the vaccine protects you in the event of catching the virus by giving you milder symptoms.
Now let's look at the word "prophylactic"
"a medication or a treatment designed and used to prevent a disease from occurring."
This doesn't make you immune, but it prevents you from getting the disease and if you do, the symptoms are milder.
Malaria prophylactic for example.
So isn't this "vaccine" named wrongly?