Suicide.

[LastMagicBean]

When you read about it, when it's a stranger, it means nothing really other than what a tragic ending.

But....

What about if it was someone you loved?

A Selfish act the family and friends have to live with???
Or .....
They're now at peace.????

Delicate subject. I know. Just interested.

 

[killerheels]

I suppose it depends if they have a terminal illness.

I think it takes great bravery to take that final step ... it's not cowardice ... but it can leave a great burden of guilt on the family or friends who are left behind. Especially if they are left confused and wondering WHY and if they could have done anything to avert it.

If you mean could I commit suicide? Not sure I've got the guts even if I ever wanted to do it.

 

[Bodgeitandleggit]

Myself personally think it is a awful thing to do anly because of the heartache that is lsft for the family to deal with unless someone is mentally ill or suffering sever depression I could understand it..

In my other neighbourhood a couple with kids was going through a bitter divorce and although he moved out he still used to see his kids and had a key......one day when the kids was at school and his ex was at work he went into the home to hang himself there so they would find him!!!!!!!!!!

I could never do it myself as I have not got the guts

 

[Sombrero]

great queston (althogh a sad subject), and if im honest i hav thought about it a cuple of times through tough times in my life. But i quiet quickly realized its not the answer for me.

So i imagine that people that do comit suicide are actualy very pourly or in extremely difficult situations for long periods of time and maybe they deseve the right to end it all...??

The poeple around them really need to acept maybe that there loved one needed a way out?

 

[LastMagicBean]

I suppose it depends if they have a terminal illness.

What about no terminal illness. Selfish ...or at peace.????

 

[killerheels]

Hope this isn't going off-topic but I have to mention it.

A couple down the road from me did a suicide pact. A couple with financial problems. I only saw them to say hi.

Apparently he first killed his wife and left her in the bath ... and then hung himself from a beam in the garage.
Taking your own life is one thing .. it made me sad and made me shudder to think of someone that could kill his wife first, albeit she had agreed. Or so the suicide note said.
I hate to think of the level of desperation they must have reached and to have felt so alone.

 

[killerheels]

I suppose it depends if they have a terminal illness.

What about no terminal illness. Selfish ...or at peace.????

Well .. if it was my OH who did the deed I don't think I could ever forgive myself. Yet I have been so severely depressed myself (years ago) that I can see how some people might feel it's the only road out of a dark place... even to the point of them believing other people 'will understand' or 'be better off'. I suppose they aren't thinking straight by then. So selfish? Maybe. But forgivable.

 

[joe-90]

Suicide isn't an act of desperation, but an answer, a door out, a realisation that there IS a way out. Suicides embrace the act - not fear it. They go with a light heart. It's what they really want to do.

And what's it got to do with anyone else? Free will rules.

 

[Sombrero]

Suicide isn't an act of desperation, but an answer, a door out, a realisation that there IS a way out. Suicides embrace the act - not fear it. They go with a light heart. It's what they really want to do.

And what's it got to do with anyone else? Free will rules.

thats what i ment to say, but probably put better !!

 

[killerheels]

My sister took an overdose and put herself in hospital for five days.
She couldn't see a way out and told me she felt driven to it. Halfway through taking her tablets she'd crushed into fruit juice she changed her mind. Spewed some up, went to bed and then had to be taken to hospital when she woke up.

The daft doctor at the hospital then told her ... fizzy drinks works better than fruit juice or alcohol as they make the tablets work faster.

 

[LastMagicBean]

Well .. if it was my OH who did the deed I don't think I could ever forgive myself.

You never forgive yourself.

My personal view is they are at peace.
I simply can't see it as a selfish act.

As a pub discussion you would be amazed at the amount of people that take the opposite stance.

 

[Sombrero]

i think pure siucide is understandabel, but the cases where a grown up kils 2/3 kids then takes there own life,,, i don't like that.. but how can you ledgislate for that? you cant !!

 

[joe-90]

That's murder. Plain simple murder.

 

[LastMagicBean]

Suicide isn't an act of desperation,

Can be for some.

 

[joe-90]

It's always a release, a way out, always.