Support the strikers

[kevindgas]

sack the lot of them.
i work, i get paid, i don't work i don't get payed!
there a 100's of people out there desperate for a job that can't get one, if you don't like the conditions move on - i have done this no less than 8 times in my working life!

BA for example has seen a significant downturn in passenger numbers and is now on the brink like many companies. i hope this strike finishes them off not because i want the company to fail but because it would teach these lazy striking gits a valuable lesson by putting them on the dole!

 

[Blasphemous]

I won't engage you any further to say that A. I have answered the accusation of lying in the 'Feminist' thread, i will not drag it here and B. I had no idea you were blocked until you brought it up...you are, and you are the only person I have blocked. It must have been because of your behaviour on the SAD NEWS thread., like i said I thought that blocking someone hide any further posts, I can't remember specifically what it was but I must have decided to end the pointless back and forth we still seem to be having.

You've failed on so many levels then haven't you?... it's rhetorical, don't bother replying.

 

[kevindgas]

What they are concerned about is that their terms and conditions are being changed. So the contract they originally signed is being made void and they are being asked to sign another one

so what would happen if they refused to sign? surely they would have a right to.
if they refuse and then get sacked surely the would have a case for unfair dismissal.

 

[cornishwizard]

sack them and give the jobs to the poles. then maybe they will stop banging on my door asking for money

 

[ColJack]

why would it be unfair dismissal?

they signed an agreement when they joined the firm to do x amount of hours for x amount of money.

don't work, don't get paid.. there is no need to sack them.. but after a period of non attendance then you can surely sack them for that..

 

[oompah]

but after a period of non attendance then you can surely sack them for that.

Frustration of contract its called,don't think there is a defining period of how long of non attendance is allowed but if these strikers have gone done the legal route of proper balloting of members then there is not alot the employer can do but sit it out and wait for common sense to prevail.

 

[skitzee2k]

but after a period of non attendance then you can surely sack them for that.

Frustration of contract its called,don't think there is a defining period of how long of non attendance is allowed but if these strikers have gone done the legal route of proper balloting of members then there is not alot the employer can do but sit it out and wait for common sense to prevail.

If it was done legally they can indeed go on for as long as they can manage (financially). You can strike for any reason, and aslong as it was done legally there is nothing the company can do.

 

[oompah]

Shut the company down,give them an option you no longer want to work there is no point trying to run a business.

 

[kevindgas]

why would it be unfair dismissal?

they signed an agreement when they joined the firm to do x amount of hours for x amount of money.

that is exact what i mean the company and the employee agree the above then the company moves the goalposts. the employee should not be forced to change if it causes them a problem. it needs to be a mutual agreement.
therefore if said company then sacked the person, surely it would be unfair dismissal.
now if employee refused to work their originally agreed times then it wouldn't in my opinion.

 

[longdogs]

I flew with BA for the first time last year and after the way I was treated I sincerely hope the whole company goes down the cr*pper.

 

[ColJack]

yes if they tried to make unfair changes to your contract then you're right they can't fire you for it, but if you wanted a change and they didn't give it to you and you strike then that's tough on you and not their fault..

they could simply employ more people willing to work for the agreed wage and then make redundancies as there are too many people working for them..
the criteria could include attendance.. which you're stuffed for..

 

[skitzee2k]

yes if they tried to make unfair changes to your contract then you're right they can't fire you for it, but if you wanted a change and they didn't give it to you and you strike then that's tough on you and not their fault..

they could simply employ more people willing to work for the agreed wage and then make redundancies as there are too many people working for them..
the criteria could include attendance.. which you're stuffed for..

You'd be on dodgy ground there. Pretty actionable. If you get rid of someone in anyway that is connected with them going on strike that is illegal. Only so called 'wildcat' strikes can be punished as they are not legal strikes