Tax & Spend Tories

[mitch66]

They place no value on University education

I think that studying at Uni to become a lawyer, vet, doctor etc should still hold some real value in peoples eyes. Trouble is every other two bit Poly is classed as a Uni now and they offer so many duff courses.
So many kids at Uni are as thick as poo, sent there by thick as poo parents who want to brag about their kids being at Uni. They leave after 3 years up to their necks in debt and take their degree in "music production" to MaccyD for a flourishing career flipping burgers. Why would you place value on that?

 

[Mottie]

So many kids at Uni are as thick as poo, sent there by thick as poo parents who want……..

……that £27k graduation photo of their thick as poo offspring on the mantelpiece for all to see.

Some of my sons friends went to university and all bar one of them doesn’t work in any profession that had a connection with the degree they took. Many of them went from university working full time back to the places they worked part time when they were home from university. "It was all about the experience" you often hear the parents say. One girl my son used to go out with had just finished university and was so upset at leaving the university lifestyle that the thought of work made her depressed and she often burst out crying.

 

[noseall]

I think that studying at Uni to become a lawyer, vet, doctor etc should still hold some real value in peoples eyes. Trouble is every other two bit Poly is classed as a Uni now and they offer so many duff courses.
So many kids at Uni are as thick as poo, sent there by thick as poo parents who want to brag about their kids being at Uni. They leave after 3 years up to their necks in debt and take their degree in "music production" to MaccyD for a flourishing career flipping burgers. Why would you place value on that?

Agree there is merit in a choice between going into a career straight after school or slugging it out at Uni and which fares best for the long term.
Either of my lads could work for their old man and my youngest may just jack college to work with his dad.

My eldest loves Worcester and could not wait to return (he went back early). The experience will do him good.

 

[Captain Nemesis]

I think that studying at Uni to become a lawyer, vet, doctor etc should still hold some real value in peoples eyes. Trouble is every other two bit Poly is classed as a Uni now and they offer so many duff courses.

Can you tell us what qualifications you have which allow you to validly pass judgment on whether certain courses are "duff" or not?

So many kids at Uni are as thick as poo, sent there by thick as poo parents who want to brag about their kids being at Uni. They leave after 3 years up to their necks in debt and take their degree in "music production" to MaccyD for a flourishing career flipping burgers. Why would you place value on that?

So what do you think should be done about that?

 

[charliegolf]

The implication that not going into a career related to your degree ('using your degree') is a failure; or rendered doing the degree 'pointless', is flawed. My daughter got a Desmond in Physics from Liverpool. She earns north of £115k. In IT. She is employed for her analytical and process skills. Nobody in her team 'did IT'. You can become a medical doctor with a degree in Geography. IF you can pass the MCAT test and pay the tuition. And there aren't enough Maccy Ds for all the grads who don't 'use their degree', so can we have a new insult please? Ta.

 

[bernardgreen]

She is employed for her analytical and process skills.

which is something that many but not all university courses instill in their graduates.

Some courses only instill knowledge but not the skills to use it in the real world.

 

[SirGalahad]

So me, my sister, our spouses, our 4 children, their partners and their three kids could all live with my mum in the same house? 5 households? Grow up.

Who says you have to have kids.

I have just again exposed your conceit.

 

[SirGalahad]

I think that studying at Uni to become a lawyer, vet, doctor etc should still hold some real value in peoples eyes. Trouble is every other two bit Poly is classed as a Uni now and they offer so many duff courses.
So many kids at Uni are as thick as poo, sent there by thick as poo parents who want to brag about their kids being at Uni. They leave after 3 years up to their necks in debt and take their degree in "music production" to MaccyD for a flourishing career flipping burgers. Why would you place value on that?

When education became a business it became all about the numbers. Not all degrees lead directly to jobs. You can study history and still apply for Law. Accoutancy, Consultancy etc. Universities should be there for young adults to learn and explore and widen their horizons.

So tell me what is the value of Classics?

 

[IT Minion]

So tell me what is the value of Classics?

It is useless for anything other than being Prime Minister.

https://www.hepi.ac.uk/2019/07/26/where-and-what-did-the-new-cabinet-study/

Most of those degrees are in softer subjects.

 

[charliegolf]

It is useless for anything other than being Prime Minister.

You can use that argument for nearly all degrees (very specific ones excepted.)
"What use is a maths degree for anyone other than a maths teacher?" is a fatuous argument.

But what good is degree level maths in everyday life? Get my drift?

 

[IT Minion]

You can use that argument for nearly all degrees (very specific ones excepted.)
"What use is a maths degree for anyone other than a maths teacher?" is a fatuous argument.

But what good is degree level maths in everyday life? Get my drift?

Or IT. Or finance.

But you might have missed that Alexander Johnson studied Classics.

 

[noseall]

But what good is degree level maths in everyday life? Get my drift?

I have used trig at least a dozen times today whilst building a roof.

 

[IT Minion]

I have used trig at least a dozen times today whilst building a roof.

These days you cover that in GCSE.

 

[SirGalahad]

Tory bots - why should my taxes pay for ponces studying pointless degrees.

Boris studied classics.

Tory Bots crawl back under the rock.

 

[Brigade77]

I have used trig at least a dozen times today whilst building a roof.

I kept one beady eye on a project to convert a 3 bed bungalow to a 5 bed that was happening quite near to one of my projects many years ago.

It interested me primarily because I didn't think it could be done & if it could . . . Why wasn't I doing it.

He did it & he made a mahoosive profit on the job. The way he worked that roof job was pure genius & I'm still surprised that such a mathematical genius had only ever worked in the building trade.