Telephone wires in the box (photo)

[trevorbayliss]

I want to move by phone point into another room. It involves reducing the cable size.

I am ready to drill my new hole, but i am just not sure how i will go about reconnecting up the 4 wires in the connection box (pictured).

I don't want to remove one of the wires for fear of loosing my service. Can anyone tell me how these wires are secured in place because it looks like they are held in place, but not by a screw.

If i did cut my cable and then used a stanley knife to open up the cabling, how do i go about fitting these back into place ?

thanks for any help

 

[sparkymarka]

IDC punch down tool !

 

[bernardgreen]

If you are only doing a few connections this will do the job

http://www.maplin.co.uk/p/idc-insertion-tool-ft51f

They did a cheaper one but that is dis-continued, available until stock exhausted.

 

[sparkymarka]

How much ..... ! You can get a proper tool for less than £2 on eBay inc delivery !

 

[trevorbayliss]

ok thanks for this.

IS it difficult to achieve a good connection. Bit worried about cocking it up

 

[Europlex]

Without the proper tool, YES

 

[Europlex]

Without the proper tool, YES

 

[SimonH2]

With the proper tool, as long as you get the tool in the slot correctly then it will nearly always "just work". If you try to bodge it with a screwdriver or knife then you'll more than likely damage the connectors.
The "proper" Krone tool includes a sensor so that it won't snip the wire until it's fully inserted. Many tools (pretty well all the very cheap ones) don't have this, so you need to be careful to make sure the wire is fully inserted - if you are slightly off-line then it's possible to push the tool, it clicks, but the wire isn't fully into the slot.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Krone_LSA-PLUS

 

[PBC_1966]

From the photo, it looks as though external drop wire has been used to wire an internal extension jack. Does the cable running to this jack take a route via the outside?

 

[trevorbayliss]

I have bought the tool, just waiting now.

PBC-1966

There was another extension next to this one, but that is now out and not connected to anything. The cable runs along the wall from the connector block where the wire from the road comes in. So i think it is pretty straight forward to pull out the cable from the clips and push it through my new hole and then cut off the excess wire and strip back and wire in place. Luckily i am going backwards so i don't need to extend the cable. Just need the tool for this now.

Do you think i would need to use a different cable and would i be able to connect up inside the black block on the wall ?

 

[bernardgreen]

If the brown cable from the black box on the outsde wall goes directly to the box you are moving then it would appear that you do not have a Master Socket in the circuit. Without a Master Socket some telephones will not ring on incoming calls and OpenReach will not be able to test your line if you report a fault on it.

The black box on the wall and the brown cable from it are OpenReach ( BT ) property and shold not be interfered with.

 

[PBC_1966]

As Bernard has said, is this the only telephone socket you have?

 

[SimonH2]

Assuming that's the first or only socket, your best bet would be to buy a pukka OpenReach NTE5 socket and fit that - then you've got a "correct" installation. It also means you can fit a filtered face plate with is by far the neatest way to do the filtering for xDSL broadband.

 

[trevorbayliss]

Yes it is the only socket in the house. I will look into getting a master socket.

I think BT would charge me £100 to move this socket so i am going to do it myself.

 

[trevorbayliss]

So i would fit this to the master socket ?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Telephone...798875?hash=item3ce83498db:g:-2kAAOSwk5FU0Qop

Currently we have a little dongle plugged into the box made by Dlink. This is supplied by talk talk with our modem. Is this a filter then ?