Testing argument

[CookyMan9999]

I have been doing a private job for a shop owner and now the job is completed (25 new flourescents and new ring) test certificate coming but a friend in work swears that you do not need to test a shop.... i disagree, its just a different form needed that the domestic installation NICEIC forms.

Is this correct or don't you need to test shops?

Any response much appreciated thanks

 

[securespark]

An EIC is an EIC is an EIC. The regs is the regs is the regs.

And 7671 asks for certification.

 

[DESL]

its just a different form needed that the domestic installation NICEIC forms.

Uh no EIC as per appendix 6 of Brown book - applicable for domestic, commercial and industrial installations.

 

[ayen]

you should test all installs, comercial no exception. I think you mate is confused and not to switched on when it comes to the regs.
You dont have to notify to building control maybe thats the confusion.

 

[Spark123]

You dont have to notify to building control maybe thats the confusion.

Unless it shares a common supply with a domestic dwelling.

 

[CookyMan9999]

thanks all now i've got a little bit better hand to bring to the table

 

[RF Lighting]

its just a different form needed that the domestic installation NICEIC forms.

You possibly will use a different form


If you normally issue domestic installation certificates, then this is not sufficient. You need to use a (non domestic) electrical installation certificate.

Are you a full NICEIC member or just a DI?

 

[CookyMan9999]

My company is a full member i am yet to ask the boss if he will put a certificate on the work for me! lets hope otherwise ill have to get the council out

 

[ayen]

is there a flat as well as the shop ?

 

[CookyMan9999]

no just the shop. there is a flat above but that had nothing to do with the installation i touched. There is 2 separate supplies for the shop and the flat

 

[ayen]

so you energised the new circuits with out testing the install?

 

[ayen]

unless the shop owner needs a niciec certificate for maybe insurance purposes then if you are competent with a tester and have access to one (which you should if your doing this sort of work on the side.) download the certificates from the iet website and issue a iec.

 

[EddieCurrent]

Hello,
If you have changed this circ's parameters then does it not need to be tested ? It doesn't matter where it is, it still got to work properly and comply with certain criteria ?

 

[CookyMan9999]

course not, i performed all the tests to 7671 but as i am not a certified i wrote down all results but i cant self certify. I have seriously checked my work there is nothing wrong but i understand your worry but its ok

I just need it "signed off"

 

[ayen]

why does he need a niceic cert? If you did the work you can issue the cert. Like i said you only need the nic cert if the client is stipulating it. Getting in touch with the council will not help as they only cover domestic work.