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Texecom Elite 24 and Internal Speaker issue

Discussion in 'Alarms, CCTV & Telephones' started by gsd8, 13 Aug 2020.

  1. gsd8

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    Hi all,
    First post! Firstly thanks for all the advice people have previously posted on here, it has been incredibly helpful in the past!
    I have just installed my first Texecom Elite 24. All appears to be working fine, however I am having an issue when installing internal extension speakers!

    I have 4 of these Kinetic 16 Ohm Mylarcone Extension Speakers (https://www.alertelectrical.com/kin...AuqXmlbQIlzXegIZ06nomIjuv49yofqxoC6isQAvD_BwE)

    The idea of having them is to act mainly as a nuisance to any possible intruder, so ideally, I would like them to activate when the alarm activates.

    These speakers only have 2 wires - a black and red.

    I initially wired the speaker red wire to the PCB External sounder connection 12V+ and the black wire to the PCB SPK (loudspeaker Connection). The internal speaker for the PCB is already wired at these connections.

    When I added one or two of the Extension Speakers to these connection points - the issue I have is that after about 10 seconds the volume of the speakers goes right down as though they are fading. If I remove the internal speaker wire, and only use one Extension speaker, it works fine. If i remove the internal speaker wire and use two extension speakers, I get the same fading issue!

    I found a hack which is as follows (basically created a loop):
    Red wire from PCB 12V+ to speaker 1 +ve
    Wire from Speaker 1 -ve to Speaker 2 +ve
    Black wire from Speaker 2 to PCB SPK
    When I do this it works fine, but I didn't set up my wiring to allow for this to occur easily!

    I tried to assign Panel Output 1 to "Alarm" via wintex, but this did resulted in no sound at all.

    So my questions are:
    Have i done something wrong with my initial wiring?
    Is it possible to add more than one extension speaker?
    Is the hack the "proper" way to do it?

    Many many thanks!!
     
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  3. sircerebus666

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    According to the instruction manual (did you read it?) You can connect either one 16ohm speaker or two 8 ohm speakers wired in the way you call a hack
     
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    You may have damaged the speaker output ?
    Too many 16 ohm speakers connected at once.
    What you should have done was connect one speaker to panel outputs and programmed accordingly.
     
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    Thanks, I just looked again, and must have glazed over this section!!
     
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    Hopefully not damaged, as it is still working fine with one speaker connected.
    I'm not 100% sure how to program the panel outputs, although I have tried this on wintex.
    Output Options>Control Panel>Panel Outputs>1:Never active (I only have 1 option here)
    I changed this in the following ways:
    GROUP TYPE: from NONE to AREA
    AREAS: from empty to A (all the zones are linked to Area A)
    OUTPUT FUNCTION: 00 Alarm.

    I wired the BLACK wire to OP1
    However on doing this there was no sound from the speaker when the alarm was active.

    Could I have programmed something wrong?
     
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    Didn’t think you could drive a speaker from panel outputs .....?
     
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    I'd be surprised if you would get a speaker to work adequately if at all from an output.

    even the speaker mimic option wouldn't work.

    so its an 8XP expander, or a keypad with a speaker.
     
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    I had a couple of twin piezo sound bombs fitted as extras, due to sound blocking by internal fire doors.

    I believe they come on the same circuit as the external siren.

    I remember the power consumption is very low.
     
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    sound bombs wont follow the speaker though, but can an output can be fired to trigger them, think the 2 piezo is less than 100mA and 4 piezos is greater than 100mA off top of my head
     
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    Thanks for this, I also have a quad piezo sound bomb, so I could try and play around with that. Do you recall how they were wired?
     
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    Thank you, do you know how I would wire/program this? I have a 4 Piezo which I could play around with.
     
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    Thanks, I can seem to find the speaker mimic option. Do you know where this might be?
    I added an external speaker to the texecom keypad, and the volume was incredibly low (even with it adjusted to:cool:
     
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    No, it was done by the installer. I think he said he added (at least one of them) to the wire for the external sounder.
     
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    Interestingly the Piezo Sound Bomb works when I attach it to the same output as the external siren.
     
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    That’s how you would wire it ....depending on current availability
     
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