The Jew hating thread

[ellal]

As part of the official report regarding the ongoing genocide, it was said that those not speaking out are complicit...

filly and the gang believe it's more important to support israel, and as part of their diversion tactics are attacking free speech when it doesn't suit their appallingly prejudiced views...

Maybe this approach should be called 'filly blustering'

 

[Notch7]

Decent people condemn Hamas and Netanyahu regime equally whilst feeling sympathy for innocent Jews and Palestinians.

Don't take sides, just condemn the evil wherever it may be.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

It still makes your claim that Hamas only ever targeted Israelis a lie.

Obviously I was talking about Hamas not any threat to any other country.
I specifically pointed that out in my original comment.

Hamas military wing has only ever targeted Israel targets. Indeed Hamas have openly declared to be no threat to any other nation.

The Hamas - Fatah conflict was a result of Abbas dictating that Gaza are not allowed their own security force, and only Abbas was allowed to control a Palestinian security force.
Additionally, USA, Israel, and others were positioning Fatah to dominate Hamas with lethal force.
It was in fact Fatah that instigated the violence between Hamas and Fatah.

the June 2007 escalation was triggered by Hamas' conviction that the PA's Presidential Guard, loyal to Mahmoud Abbas, was being positioned to take control of Gaza. The US had helped build up the Presidential Guard to 3,500 men since August 2006. The US committed $59 million for training and non-lethal equipment for the Presidential Guard, and persuaded Arab allies to fund the purchase of further weapons. Israel, too, allowed light arms to flow to members of the Presidential Guard.

March 2006 to December 2006: rise of tensions​

Following the elections, Hamas announced the formation of its own security service, the Executive Force, ....Abbas had denounced the move as unconstitutional, saying that only the Palestinian president could command armed forces

Tensions further grew between the two Palestinian factions after they failed to reach a deal to share government power.

On 14 December 2006, Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh, carrying tens of millions in donations, was denied by Israel entry into Gaza via the Rafah Border Crossing. Angry Hamas militants stormed the post, which was staffed by European monitors and defended by Abbas' Presidential Guard, responsible for security there. After guards had fired at the Hamas militants, they took over the hall, firing shots into the air. A Hamas official tried to get the militants to disperse. ...

The same day, Haniyeh was allowed to return to Gaza without the money, but while crossing the border, gunmen attacked his car, killing one bodyguard. One of Haniyeh's sons was moderately wounded and his political adviser Ahmed Youssef was lightly wounded.[68] At the time, Fatah PLC member and former Fatah security chief Mohammed Dahlan was blamed for this apparent assassination attempt.[69] ...Fighting broke out in the West Bank after Palestinian National Security Forces fired on a Hamas rally in Ramallah. Security units loyal to Mahmoud Abbas and dressed in riot gear used clubs and rifles to beat back the demonstrators before the shooting broke out. At least 20 people were wounded in the clashes, which came shortly after the attempt to assassinate Ismail Haniyeh

Fatah–Hamas conflict - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Decent people condemn Hamas and Netanyahu regime equally whilst feeling sympathy for innocent Jews and Palestinians.

Don't take sides, just condemn the evil wherever it may be.

It is Israel that persistently refuses a ceasefire, and consistently breaks any ceasefire, not only in Gaza, but also in Lebanon, and Syria.
It is Israel that attacks other countries not involved in the Gaza-Israel conflict. It has attacked Iran and Qatar without provocation. It continues its attacks on Yemen.
Israel has even attacked UN targets.

Israel continues to violate the ceasefire agreement; UN facilities are being attacked​

After committing over 1,000 violations of the ceasefire agreement, Israel has decided to totally collapse the agreement, resuming its killing and destruction spree with the massive bombardment of Gaza, again raining death and destruction on the Palestinian people.

https://www.un.org/unispal/document/israel-continues-to-violate-the-ceasefire-agreement-un-facilities-are-being-attacked-letter-from-the-state-of-palestine-a-es-10-1027-s-2025-173/

 

[noseall]

Well no court found that the liquidation of the Warsaw ghetto was genocide... but it was...

HWM seems to think there needs to be a court case in order to deem what's happening in Gaza as criminal war atrocities.

 

[Notch7]

It is Israel that persistently refuses a ceasefire, and consistently breaks any ceasefire, not only in Gaza, but also in Lebanon, and Syria.
It is Israel that attacks other countries not involved in the Gaza-Israel conflict. It has attacked Iran and Qatar without provocation. It continues its attacks on Yemen.
Israel has even attacked UN targets

Do you accept that what happened on Oct 7th was a despicable act of terrorism?

Do you agree that Hamas are still holding hostages and that is wrong?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Do you accept that what happened on Oct 7th was a despicable act of terrorism?

I see it as a continuing part of the decades long conflict., which didn't begin in October 2023. But it is a war crime to intentionally target civilians.
As Israel has been doing for decades, in Gaza and in the West Bank, and denying some human rights to Palestinians.

Do you agree that Hamas are still holding hostages and that is wrong?

I also agree that Israel are still holding about 10,000 hostages, and have killed many, tortured and abused others, and that is equally wrong.

Since October 7, allegations of ill-treatment and torture of Palestinians in Israeli detention have sharply increased. According to media reports, at least 40 Palestinians have died in Israeli military detention and 16 in prison over the past eight months.

Action must be taken on alleged complicity of Israeli doctors in torture

Israeli physicians risk becoming, or may already be, complicit in torture and ill-treatment of detained Palestinians.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[fillyboy]

Do you accept that what happened on Oct 7th was a despicable act of terrorism?

Do you agree that Hamas are still holding hostages and that is wrong?

I see it as a continuing part of the decades long conflict., which didn't begin in October 2023. But it is a war crime to intentionally target civilians.
As Israel has been doing for decades, in Gaza and in the West Bank, and denying some human rights to many Palestinians.

In one of your previous incarnations you stated that 'the Israelis had it coming'. I see you still feel that way, shame on you.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

In one of your previous incarnations you stated that 'the Israelis had it coming'. I see you still feel that way, shame on you.

I see you are putting your misunderstanding on another's words, like Highway Man does.

Don't blame or criticise me for your misunderstanding of what I said.

Now about that source of Starmer supposedly making the destruction of Gazan school books a condition of recognising the state of Palestine. I'm still waiting.
You don't need to bother about the Martyr's fund being a condition, I've already debunked that disinformation.
It was ceased in February 2025.

 

[fillyboy]

I see you are putting your misunderstanding on another's words, like Highway Man does.

Don't blame or criticise me for your misunderstanding of what I said.

Now about that source of Starmer supposedly making the destruction of Gazan school books a condition of recognising the state of Palestine. I'm still waiting.
You don't need to bother about the Martyr's fund being a condition, I've already debunked that disinformation.
It was ceased in February 2025.

Starmer to demand Palestinian Authority stops ‘pay to slay’ policy

Sir Keir Starmer will tell Palestinian officials they must stop paying the families of terrorists before Britain can open full diplomatic relations.

www.yahoo.com

Starmer to demand Palestinian Authority stops ‘pay to slay’ policy​

Joe Barnes
Tue, September 23, 2025 at 9:49 AM GMT+1
6 min read

Sir Keir Starmer will tell Palestinian officials they must stop paying the families of terrorists before Britain can open full diplomatic relations.

The Prime Minister is facing a backlash over his decision to formally recognise Palestine, a move that threatens ties with Israel and the US.

Sir Keir will now insist that the Palestinian Authority ends its “pay to slay” policy of handing out stipends to the families of “martyrs” killed or detained for attacks on Israelis.

The demand was part of a series of required reforms before any two-state solution is finalised, sources said.

The plan includes an overhaul of school textbooks deemed anti-Semitic and fresh elections before Britain opens a Palestinian embassy in east Jerusalem or signs international treaties.

On Monday Israel was considering closing French consulates in Jerusalem in retaliation for Emmanuel Macron recognising Palestine as a state at the United Nations. Sources said Israel was focusing its retribution on France for now, which has been leading the international effort.

Pro-Palestine protests spread to Italy on Monday, after Giorgia Meloni refused to follow France, Britain and others in recognising the occupied territories.

Sir Keir’s move, Britain’s biggest foreign policy shift in decades, was condemned by the United States and the families of Israeli hostages. Donald Trump is expected to air his concerns at his UN speech on Tuesday.

 

[Knave of Hearts]

Thank you for the link.
Because the Telegraph calls it a 'pay to slay' fund, it doesn't make it so.
The Telegraph's attitude to Israel's atrocities is legendary.

Trump peddles hate, Starmer rewards it​

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Recognising a nation that doesn’t exist can only be a foolish gesture​

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The West is sliding into an anti-Semitic abyss​

The West is sliding into an anti-Semitic abyss

Jake Wallis Simons warns that prejudice against Jews is becoming all too acceptable – and points to some reasons why

www.telegraph.co.uk

UK already has a consulate in Jerusalem which serves Gaza, West Bank and Jerusalem.
I don't suppose many can tell the difference between a Consulate and an Embassy.

The UK has a non-accredited Consulate General in Jerusalem that "represents the UK government in Jerusalem, West Bank, and Gaza", and works on "political, commercial, security and economic interests between the UK and the Palestinian territories".

 

[Highway Man]

HWM seems to think there needs to be a court case in order to deem what's happening in Gaza as criminal war atrocities.

Well that’s how it works.

 

[fillyboy]

Thank you for the link.
Because the Telegraph calls it a 'pay to slay' fund, it doesn't make it so.

If it's not, and it's merely some sort of 'benefit payment' as you suggest, Why would Starmer insist on it being halted as one of his conditions?

 

[Knave of Hearts]

If it's not, and it's merely some sort of 'benefit payment' as you suggest, Why would Starmer insist on it being halted as one of his conditions?

His wife probably told him to.

I can find no evidence that such a condition exists, other than the Telegraph which is an obvious pro-Israeli media.

 

[Notch7]

I see it as a continuing part of the decades long conflict., which didn't begin in October 2023. But it is a war crime to intentionally target civilians.
As Israel has been doing for decades, in Gaza and in the West Bank, and denying some human rights to Palestinians

I asked whether you see Oct 7th as a despicable act of terrorism.

Why did you avoid answering.

Your reply seems to imply that it was justified