Theresa May

[Susiejb]

Totally agree with Big Tone and with lot of what you say spacecat...the abortion thing I suppose is open to discussion.....but yes I agree with the basics behind it and in many ways of course you are right.

How can kids possibly grow up knowing a sense of decency and respect when their own parents do not even know the meaning of the words.
I only have to hear the way some parents speak to their children and it makes me cringe. How can any child be expected to grow up and value another human being when they have never been shown that they themselves have any value at all.

 

[Big Tone]

@ Big Tone excellent post

I think that a lot of the cause in this behavior is the complete breakdown of family structures and the price we are paying for the past 20 years of high teenage pregnancy

Thanks Spacecat and I entirely agree with you. What you refer to is children having children.

As a generalisation: How on Earth can mothers' who have little experience of life and is more interested in partying, and the latest mobile phone, be a good role model imparting wisdom?

To add insult to this country’s injury they also expect to get to the top of the housing list ahead of hard working responsible people and get a furnished flat, fridge, T.V., and £300 to decorate which goes straight into their pocket for alcohol, fags and a 'slag tag' above their arse.

Add: Just read your post too Susie. Sounds like we are singing from the same hymn sheet...

 

[anobium]

Sad to say but it will take at least 2 generations before we are rid of these undesirables .
Even then we will have to cut it out at source by somehow stopping the slappers and slags from spawning the next generation.
How about paying them to have abortions,? it will be cheaper in the long run.!
Yes I know its extreme but extreme measures are called for.
On a final point if you want to home a dog from the RSPCA they will check you out to see if you are capable of looking after it, but anybody can have a kid.

 

[geraint]

Totally agree with Big Tone and with lot of what you say spacecat...the abortion thing I suppose is open to discussion.....but yes I agree with the basics behind it and in many ways of course you are right.

How can kids possibly grow up knowing a sense of decency and respect when their own parents do not even know the meaning of the words.
I only have to hear the way some parents speak to their children and it makes me cringe. How can any child be expected to grow up and value another human being when they have never been shown that they themselves have any value at all.

 

[geraint]

Totally agree with Big Tone and with lot of what you say spacecat...the abortion thing I suppose is open to discussion.....but yes I agree with the basics behind it and in many ways of course you are right.

How can kids possibly grow up knowing a sense of decency and respect when their own parents do not even know the meaning of the words.
I only have to hear the way some parents speak to their children and it makes me cringe. How can any child be expected to grow up and value another human being when they have never been shown that they themselves have any value at all.

so what about your children....aret they are not alloweed

 

[alumni]

What she's responsible for is not disputed. Knowing all the answers is.

 

[longdogs]

I didn't say she knew all the answers, I said she should know what the police need to do their job. Its not as though it hasn't happened before.

 

[Susiejb]

Totally agree with Big Tone and with lot of what you say spacecat...the abortion thing I suppose is open to discussion.....but yes I agree with the basics behind it and in many ways of course you are right.

How can kids possibly grow up knowing a sense of decency and respect when their own parents do not even know the meaning of the words.
I only have to hear the way some parents speak to their children and it makes me cringe. How can any child be expected to grow up and value another human being when they have never been shown that they themselves have any value at all.

so what about your children....aret they are not alloweed

I am not quite sure of the question...allowed to do what.

 

[alumni]

I didn't say she knew all the answers, I said she should know what the police need to do their job. Its not as though it hasn't happened before.

So surely the Police don't need her input then?

A somewhat simplistic viewpoint, i agree. But the riots/trouble currently going on don't have a common cause (apart from them being carried out by twts) so difficult for anyone to compare historic solutions to todays problems.

 

[spacecat]

The kids who are involved in these actions in many ..not all cases

are totally disenfranchised from society the way you or I see it

I.e. some type of moral code defining behaviour exists

they do not a give a flying fK about Britain, polititicans, the Police, other people
including those like themselves who they will happily stab to death over the most minor incident.

They do not care or understand the consequences of thier actions and likely see a prison sentence as a badge of honour to be proud of.

Their main goal in life is the acquisition of status enhancing material goods
Trainers, Bling, motor, plasma etc etc
they do not care how they get it or who gets hurt if they do.

These same kids are havin more kids who they raise in a the same if not WORSE manner than they themselves were raised.

They are literally without any morals as they never had them imposed on them like most people through their upbringing

Most Human behaviour is TAUGHT not INNATE...they were NEVER taught and now they dont really GET why they should care abut anything.

Sure they can fake it in a court room but they dont FEEL it.

In many ways they are totally lost and SOCIETY has to take the responsibility as SOCIETY allowed it to happen.

One prime example if the police had gone in HARD saturday night hardly anything else would have happened, the only thing they CURRENTLY understand is HARDNESS you have to be HARDER tham them to gain respect which is the basis of ther belief system

 

[Alarm]

Agree with the last bit.

 

[Susiejb]

The whole of it makes sense to me.

 

[alumni]

They went in hard on Thursday did they not?

As i recall you weren't too keen on that.

 

[spacecat]

They went in hard on Thursday did they not?

As i recall you weren't too keen on that.

do you practice being thick?

2 DIFFERENT EVENTS, 2 DIFFERENT ISSUES, 2 DIFFERENT APPROACHES

 

[alumni]

Get real. you can't have it both ways.
You're fellow tree hugger is now advocating cluster bombs.

You two just make it up as you go along.