Theresa's Vote Winner

As an immigrant myself from old communist country, I just can't trust Corbyn to keep this country safe, which for me is the biggest issue.

Talking about his policies, I have my doubts too. As someone from old communist country, communist politicians always promise something gigantic, and ask us to break existing system to create new one. However, their promises always break and nothing works better in real world than capitalism.

The more I read his policy and the more I think this is true: Labour is good at spending the money and Tory is good at making the money.
 
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Are you assuming that Labour voters are communists?
 
Not most labour voters, but certainly Mr Corbyn and his close friends.

For me, Labour voters are the ones who bought into their ideas, just like I used to be (When I was young, I really believed that publicly owned company will behave better than private ones and public owned land/economical model will bring us prosperity) . But I don't buy into any that kind of ideas any more.
 
To be fair, it's not "communism" that you are complaining about but the fact that the "so-called communist leaders" were as corrupt as are the capitalist leaders.

Do you think Corbyn is corrupt?

The privatised railways receive more subsidy now than when nationalised.
The nationalised industries were intentionally run down by capitalists for cheap sell-offs.
 
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so do you approve of selling off the NHS, the roads and railways, the fire service and the National Grid?
 
Hi Dear EFLImpudence and John, I do complain about communism. Back in my university days under communism country, we actually got taught all the theories about communism and how it should benefit the majority, so the society will be for the many, not the few.

But the reality is that the communism theory is too difficult to be implemented. people always said that the theory was good, it was the guys implementing the theories went corrupt, stupid or just spy of foreign country. However, why you come up with such a policy/theory that is so difficult to get it right in the first place?

Talking about public service like trains, I have been using British train for 15 years daily (as I don't drive at all). There is a big argument on both sides. As a daily user, what I cares the most is who can give me better service and it doesn't matters if it is owned as a by the government or by a private company.
I am not really sure that the ticket price will go down if the train company is owned by the government (at least I didn't see that from Corbyn's policy). I am a southwest train user (lucky not southern), the most delays I got are because of some track failure or some signalling failure. Unfortunately the maintenance company is not private (I think it is national rail?). So I don't really see from my experience that how a public owned company will behave much better.

Talking about NHS and other policies, I don't think I have enough experiences to argue in either way as there are successful systems private owned or public owned. I guess for me it is about who can provide better quality other than who owns it.

In UK, history seems to suggest that private company behaves better, but that may not be the case in other countries. For example, Chinese trains are owned by government and they are amazing. Although I would rather call China as a national capitalism country than a communism country.

What I do know something is the so called "dementia tax". My colleague sits next to me, his Mom unfortunately got this disease. For him, the most important thing is the quality of care his mom got, not how much money he will inherit. Someone will have to pay, it is either the Tax payer or funded by his family. For him, the policy proposed by May is not bad at all and he is a definitely left-wing Green party voter (he stood for Green party in local election once)! I think for public services, it is more about what works other than who owns it.
 
The privatised railways receive more subsidy now than when nationalised.
The system we have now works quite well; publicly managed infrastructure but privately managed service. As a result, usuage has skyrocketed and service is better than ever in every way except walk-up fare. And our subsidies remain small compared to those of other European countries, yet our rail system is harder to manage. If you tried to nationalise the railways now and maintain the current level of service, the cost to the taxpayer would be vastly, disproportionately higher.

It is a truism that in everything moderation. Never go full ideology. 100% capitalism is heartless and ruthless, 100% socialism is unsustainable and discourages progress. But a mix of the two might just work...

The nationalised industries were intentionally run down by capitalists for cheap sell-offs.
What? Please explain.
 
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