This mornings Shopping expidition

[Diver Fred]

I've got t put this in writing 'cause I couldn't say what I what I wanted to say in the shop.

Just been in the local Aldi's doing some shopping. Walking up the first isle where the crisp's and similar are. Young kid comes running up the isle and throws himself into the open boxes of crisps and nacho's - Bursts a few bags but crushes just about every bag he could making them unsalable. Mother of brat laughs, tells him to get out of the boxes, tells him off for getting crisp/nacho crumbs on him but not doing the damage and walks on. Store assistant and manager now remonstrate with the mother trying at the very least for to her to pay for the burst open bags. All she does is give the store manager a very crude mouthful of bad English language and tries to continue shopping. Because she was refusing to pay for the damage the manager asked her to leave before he had to escort off the premises, but when that happened she tipped her shopping trolley over!
Some of the surround watchers offer their comments, most supporting the manager but some supporting her and the brat.

I felt so ashamed to be British in shop where a lot of EU nationals where shopping. Why are British kids so undisaplined nowadays?

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Shame on you, you're not British if you didn't get your phone out to film it whilst idly standing by.

 

[Mottie]

Don’t see that sort of behaviour in Waitrose.

 

[Brigade77]

Complex problems do not have simple answers.

It is proven that the single biggest impact on generational behaviour is the phenomenon of the 'absent father'.

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Dragged up not brought up as they say. People roll their eyes when you say this these days (probably doesn't fit with the PC narrative) however decent parenting is surely the foundation to ensure (as far as anyone reasonably can) that kids grow up into well rounded adults. To be honest, I dread to think the kind of households many children will be dragged up in. My mum taught for 30 years and certainly had her eyes opened re: certain types of 'parent', the poor kids are put at such a disadvantage so early on in life.

Okay parents can all have off days, however sometimes (like your experience in Aldi's) you just need to keep it shut and move on. In Asda a few years back I saw a young boy lift something from a shelf and ask his mum 'can I have this?' As I say, maybe she was at the end of her tether that day, however to respond to the boy with 'if you don't put that back you little (c word) you'll be getting it as soon as we get home!!!' was shocking to say the least. Charming.

For info, I was brought up in a single parent household and like to think I'm a reasonable human being. I always think, better to be brought up by one decent parent than two that fall below par in whatever way.

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Complex problems do not have simple answers.

It is proven that the single biggest impact on generational behaviour is the phenomenon of the 'absent father'.

The behaviour of the children of soldiers must be problematic then, then there's the children of the male abuser, the children of prisoners, the children of fathers that have to work away from home for long periods of time, etc.
You would have thought that governments would have thought of reducing the effects of the absent father by now.
Or may be it's not as serious as you think.

 

[transam]

I've got t put this in writing 'cause I couldn't say what I what I wanted to say in the shop.

Just been in the local Aldi's doing some shopping. Walking up the first isle where the crisp's and similar are. Young kid comes running up the isle and throws himself into the open boxes of crisps and nacho's - Bursts a few bags but crushes just about every bag he could making them unsalable. Mother of brat laughs, tells him to get out of the boxes, tells him off for getting crisp/nacho crumbs on him but not doing the damage and walks on. Store assistant and manager now remonstrate with the mother trying at the very least for to her to pay for the burst open bags. All she does is give the store manager a very crude mouthful of bad English language and tries to continue shopping. Because she was refusing to pay for the damage the manager asked her to leave before he had to escort off the premises, but when that happened she tipped her shopping trolley over!
Some of the surround watchers offer their comments, most supporting the manager but some supporting her and the brat.

I felt so ashamed to be British in shop where a lot of EU nationals where shopping. Why are British kids so undisaplined nowadays?

parents

 

[Brigade77]

For info, I was brought up in a single parent household and like to think I'm a reasonable human being. I always think, better to be brought up by one decent parent than two that fall below par in whatever way.

Yep. I wasn't having a dig at anyone or any particular situational circumstances in particular.

I was raised by 2 decent & hardworking parents (of the opposite sex). "Me Mam" always said she was proud of all of us, yet my eldest brother is like chalk & cheese from the rest of us, nowadays almost totally ignored by almost anyone who ever knew or met him.

I clearly remember one event when I'd be eight & he was in the full flow of his teen hormones, I was sat eating my jam on toast when in the midst of yet another belligerent tantrum he told 'Me Mam' to "FU.. ...", he'd almost reached that second syllable as I felt my dad whoosh past me & grab him. His lanky legs flew around the room as the old man bundled him outside for one of the beatings of the sense.

I very nearly pi$$ed myself one night in t'pub when I was 16ish & he tried telling me not to mess with dad "cos he's a bit handy like" . . .

 

[Brigade77]

Believe me or not. When they put all the statistics into the computers, punch the enter key & examine the graphs.

By far, the BIGGEST influence on current generational behaviour problems is the phenomena of absent fathers . . .

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Yep. I wasn't having a dig at anyone or any particular situational circumstances in particular.

I was raised by 2 decent & hardworking parents (of the opposite sex). "Me Mam" always said she was proud of all of us, yet my eldest brother is like chalk & cheese from the rest of us, nowadays almost totally ignored by almost anyone who ever knew or met him.

I clearly remember one event when I'd be eight & he was in the full flow of his teen hormones, I was sat eating my jam on toast when in the midst of yet another belligerent tantrum he told 'Me Mam' to "FU.. ...", he'd almost reached that second syllable as I felt my dad whoosh past me & grab him. His lanky legs flew around the room as the old man bundled him outside for one of the beatings of the sense.

I very nearly pi$$ed myself one night in t'pub when I was 16ish & he tried telling me not to mess with dad "cos he's a bit handy like" . . .

My mum hit the right balance between loving/caring for us but also not standing for any nonsense. I can confidently say if I'd ever told my mum to f off, I'd have known about it! The thing is, due to the way I was brought up, it never crossed my mind to speak to her that way, even though we had our fair share of mum/son arguments especially in my teen years!

 

[Scarlet Pimpernel]

Believe me or not. When they put all the statistics into the computers, punch the enter key & examine the graphs.

By far, the BIGGEST influence on current generational behaviour problems is the phenomena of absent fathers . . .

Sorry, but your affirmation is not sufficient to prove a causal effect.

 

[Mottie]

Mrs Mottie saw a small child take down his trousers and pants and urinate under a shelf in Woolies once with his mum just watching him.

 

[danechip]

I was 7 or 8 in NAAFI with my Dad, I shouted 'Look Dad, A Basted Chicken' wrapped in the thick plastic in the deep freezers.

I got slapped (clipped) around the head. I thought it was a swear word. What gives?

 

[Brigade77]

Sorry, but your affirmation is not sufficient to prove a causal effect.

Keep burying your head in your MSM of choice & comfort yourself that all is normal in the world today.

If you can fight your way out of the fog & discover the new wave of information gathering, then you might begin to realise that all is very far from normal in the world today.

You could do a lot worse than start with a gentleman by the name of Dr. Jordan Peterson. A clinical psychologist who has been attacked from every angle by some VERY powerful forces, yet no can prove him wrong. Start with him 'cos he tells it in a way you should be able to understand. Then I can give you a few other pointers with far more powerful arguments . . .

 

[danechip]

Mrs Mottie saw a small child take down his trousers and pants and urinate under a shelf in Woolies once with his mum just watching him.

I see kids playing up, I just can't help myself from saying 'Should have worn a condom'. Some laugh. The rest don't speak English.