To all those that welcome/encourage the small boat migrants.

[Lirefighter]

Not at all.

I was flagging a weird sounding website for others who might not have noticed. I thought that was a friendly thing to do. I'm not going to visit a website I am not sure of on my main work computer.

Do you have any other examples where I "undermine" people's posts? Usually the undermining seems to be aimed at me even though I always quote extremely reputable mainstream sources.

The people who are paying you would probably be more miffed if they realised that you were spending most of your time using their computer for non work related activities.
I thought you were retired, anyway?
Are you glowing.

 

[MNW67]

Inflame hostility?

Yes, of course it does. It is a type of propaganda. The right wing politicians want the public to think that the asylum seekers are living in luxury. And I have to admit that, until yesterday, I went along with that. But hat tip to Denso for pointing out the reality. Politicians should know better than to deliberately sow division against immigrants. It never ends well.

Is it the fact that some of them are accommodated in 4* hotels what really sticks in your craw?
Is that a step too far for you and others who are far lefties, or do you not really care either way, so long as they are here.

I don't really know where to start unpicking that twisted logic. You are such a Gaslighter. Does it get exhausting, never being able to accept anything or anyone at face value. Nobody wants these people here. I have spent many pages discussing solutions to prevent them getting here.

 

[Lirefighter]

Obviously. Although, as discussed in this thread previously, that is by choice. France would give a very similar package of support to the one we provide if these people applied. Which adds to the mystery of why they want to come here so badly.

Perhaps infiltrating every country in Europe is part of their plan.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

, I went along with that. But hat tip to Denso for pointing out the reality. Politicians should know better than to deliberately sow division against immigrants. It never ends well.

A weekly hotel room will still cost a lot more than a uk citizen gets for housing allowance.

Regardless of the star rating

 

[MNW67]

A weekly hotel room will still cost a lot more than a uk citizen gets for housing allowance.

Regardless of the star rating

Yes, that is true. It could easily cost five times as much if not more.

All I am asking for is an honest debate.

 

[Harry Bloomfield]

Perhaps infiltrating every country in Europe is part of their plan.

Well, the plan is working well!

 

[Lirefighter]

Politicians should know better than to deliberately sow division against immigrants. It never ends well.

I can't think of any previous examples where politicians have deliberately stoked up resentment against huge numbers of immigrants being catered for above and beyond their own citizens, that has not ended well.
Those in power tended to have a bit more sense in the past to not allow then in to start with.
Which politicians are you thinking of?

 

[MNW67]

I can't think of any previous examples where politicians have deliberately stoked up resentment

Well, there were the Farage Riots not so long ago.

 

[Lirefighter]

All I am asking for is an honest dedebate.

Well, I for one don't believe you.
I can't be more honest than that.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

Well, I for one don't believe you.
I can't be more honest than that.

+1

 

[MNW67]

Well, I for one don't believe you.
I can't be more honest than that.

It's always projection with you.

 

[Lirefighter]

Well, there were the Farage Riots not so long ago.

Perhaps you are just ignorant then.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

Always projection with you.

He’s being honest.

 

[MNW67]

He’s being honest.

I know. He honestly believes that I am not being honest.
That is the projection I was talking about.
He projects that behaviour onto me because that is how he himself operates.
He has previously mentioned his conversion, and how he now tries to look at everything through a prism.
I think it has led him not to trust anyone.
Whereas I am completely at peace with myself. I don't have to twist myself into contortions with every post, because I am always honest.

 

[Deleted member 317777]

I know. He honestly believes that I am not being honest.
That is the projection I was talking about.
He projects that behaviour onto me because that is how he himself operates.
He has mentioned before his conversion and how he now tries to look at everything through a prism.
I think it has led him not to trust anyone.
Whereas I am completely at peace with myself. I don't have to twist myself into contortions with every post, because I am always honest.

As long as you believe it.