Trump or Biden
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Forget for a moment that he's a sexist, misogynist and a complete nutter and as you say, quite simply look at his track record.
1. Boosted the economy (and no that wasn't laid out in advance by Obama as some misinformed people like to claim)
2. Created employment (and in particular boosted employment for black people)
3. Didn't start a single war
4. Actually sat down and entered into dialogue with Kim Jong Un
5. Held China to account over their trade practices and was in the process making the arrangement more reciprocal (Clinton - Democrat signed trade deals with China that cost millions of Americans their jobs, it disenfranchised entire states.
6. Brokered 2 peace agreements in the Middle east.
He mishandled Covid, as did 6 or 7 out of 10 world leaders, fortunately Boris wont be facing an election for another 4 years, and remember folks, when the next UK election comes along, the majority of voters will only remember the last 6 months.
Another thing that has become very clear is that pollsters are no longer pollsters. Their job is no longer taking polls and predicting outcomes, they have taken to selecting their 'sample audience' thereby arriving at an outcome which is desired by certain parties.
That's why Biden didn't win by the predicted landslide, far from it, it was nail bitingly close, that's why Brexit won despite Remain being the predicted outcome until the bitter end.
Pollsters know they can spread the word further with the help of 'useful idiots' like Notchy, Galahad, Noseall et al.
Fortunately most of the time sanity prevails and we get the right result, in the case of the 2020 US election neither result was right, hopefully in 4 years time that situation will be resolved.
The dementia will set in before he even gets George out of the White House.
6 Brokered 2 peace agreements in the Middle east, one being with Bahrain, a country with no beef with USA.
7. Let Putin get away with putting bounties on US soldiers
8. Called the military fallen suckers and losers. (at their gravesides)
9. Set Iran off on nuke ambitions again.
Long day, I'll get you up to ten tomorrow.
He hasn't got dementia
Obama created more employment.
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I hate to say it, the way he's reading from the Autocue already makes me cringe, i mean fck sake Trump spewed/shot from the hip, but at least it was his own mind, despite being an utter brain dump most of the time.
The pauses and lack of actual meaningful emotion from Biden reading them out, as you say makes him sound vacant and closer than maybe he is who knows.
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Ohh yes he has!
By increasing debt.
Short termism...deregulate, lower taxes, stopped banking regulations, reversed environmental policies.
Short term boost increasing recession risk in near future.
Your confirmation bias is stopping you getting to the facts
Unlike Trump, Biden is a very experienced politician, he has been Vice President for 8 years.
Biden is an expert on foreign affairs unlike Trump who knows furk all about anything
I meant to mention the Iran nuke deal, he exposed that for what it was, a ridiculous deal with the EU allowing them to carry on building nukes and creating terrorism. After Trumps intervention and eventual withdrawal from the deal Macron was forced to admit 'the deal could have been more ambitious'.
Neither of the countries involved in the M.E. peace agreements 'had beefs' with the US, they 'had beefs' with Israel, now they haven't, I'm not sure I can clarify that any further for you.
It's not something to celebrate (unless you are the completely classless Noseall) that someone is struggling but he is, & Bidens only going to get worse from here. My question is why put yourself through this at his age?
Yes, I believe many of the details are on his sons laptop, but hey, who doesn't want a few Ukranian dollars if they're offering.
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Your bias is blinding your judgement Notch. Im glad Biden has won over Trump feed that into your little RightWing o meter machine, i bet it blows up.
Doesn't matter if he's had affairs with every president in the world, he's pushing up the mileage big time, im just commenting how detached he seems reading from the autocue, dont get me wrong watching him jog down the steps the other day was impressive, better than alot of the lazy armchair experts on here im sure.
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