University For All ??

[crockett]

You have to understand that the purpose of school (and to some extent university) in recent years is not to give people a good education but to try to prove that everyone is equal.

Everyone is equally important, but that is not the same as saying that they have equal abilities.

What people don't seem to realise (or more likely know but choose to ignore) is that when everyone has prizes, no-one has a prize worth having.

Good technical education would be a great advantage for this country but the socialists won't allow it. Everyone has to study the same curriculum to further this idea of equality.

This was basically the point I was trying to convey. Spot on

 

[joe-90]

This was basically the point I was trying to convey. Spot on

Did, do, will your kids go to Uni?

 

[crockett]

This was basically the point I was trying to convey. Spot on

Did, do, will your kids go to Uni?

One is in full time employment ( Greenkeeper ), one is still in school, and if her vocation is uni, then fair enough.

 

[joe-90]

You mean you aren't going to talk her out of it yet you want the rest of us to do just that with our kids?

 

[crockett]

If she said she was going to do, what I considered, a 'useless' degree, then you're darn right I'd talk her out of it, as no doubt somewhere along the line, I'd be opening my wallet to fund it in some way, whether it be for digs, food money or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, Joe. Further education which will benefit the masses is a good thing, IMO. A Horse psychology degree is as useful as the produce that exits said horse. in fact less so, on second thought.

 

[WestmidsChippy]

If she said she was going to do, what I considered, a 'useless' degree, then you're darn right I'd talk her out of it, as no doubt somewhere along the line, I'd be opening my wallet to fund it in some way, whether it be for digs, food money or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, Joe. Further education which will benefit the masses is a good thing, IMO. A Horse psychology degree is as useful as the produce that exits said horse. in fact less so, on second thought.

But someone who spends many years studying law in order to become a solicitor/barrister has the right (in your mind, i am guessing) to go to university...

At then end of it to be standing in front of a jury/magistrate to quote b***ocks that some other Neanderthal from a few centuries ago thought up and still pick up a pretty penny afterwards.

You canne pick and choose so lets just have everyone in uni with the chance to have numerous gangbangs (so i have heard or no one at all and just train everyone on the job.

IMO

 

[crockett]

If she said she was going to do, what I considered, a 'useless' degree, then you're darn right I'd talk her out of it, as no doubt somewhere along the line, I'd be opening my wallet to fund it in some way, whether it be for digs, food money or whatever.

Don't get me wrong, Joe. Further education which will benefit the masses is a good thing, IMO. A Horse psychology degree is as useful as the produce that exits said horse. in fact less so, on second thought.

But someone who spends many years studying law in order to become a solicitor/barrister has the right (in your mind, i am guessing) to go to university...

At then end of it to be standing in front of a jury/magistrate to quote b***ocks that some other Neanderthal from a few centuries ago thought up and still pick up a pretty penny afterwards.

You canne pick and choose so lets just have everyone in uni with the chance to have numerous gangbangs (so i have heard or no one at all and just train everyone on the job.

IMO

And horse whispering is a useful career choice then? I think you've misunderstood me. And as for a solicitor / barrister, would you rather some geezer walked out in court, pointed at you, said 'Guilty!' and walked back out again ? That particular career that you've selected for criticism is probably a bit more involved than using quotations from 'neanderthals' I would have thought. You're veering off into 'whether a career is worth the wages someone gets paid' path. I'm talking about whether certain degrees are worthy of wasting some persons time on, and if every young person should go to uni doing these 'degrees', when the courses have no beneficial use, other than a nicely framed diploma on the wall. IMO

 

[joe-90]

But is it really any of your business? My neighbour is a BT manager but did his degree in metallurgy. Would he have got the BT job without a degree? You don't have to get a job that is associated with your degree.

 

[Johndug]

If she said she was going to do, what I considered, a 'useless' degree, then you're darn right I'd talk her out of it, .

Talking of useless degrees, how about enrolling at
Staffordshire University and going for a degree in David Beckham studies – or if you fancy spending some time in Brighton, they do a two-year "Street Arts Performance" course where you can study juggling.

 

[crockett]

But is it really any of your business? My neighbour is a BT manager but did his degree in metallurgy. Would he have got the BT job without a degree? You don't have to get a job that is associated with your degree.

Is anything anybodys business Joe? It's MY opinion, so, if I choose to make comment on a subject, I will. I would also argue that a degree in metallurgy is a damn sight more relevant to society than the degrees I mentioned earlier. I'm also sure that your friends employers would look more favourably towards the degree he had than if he went there with a degree in David Beckham studies. Call it degree snobbery if it makes you happy

 

[joe-90]

I haven't said that degrees shouldn't be on serious subjects only. You lumped all degrees in the same basket saying that kids shouldn't get one regardless of what it was.

On Sky News just the other day they said that the worst degrees for jobs were IT and civil engineering, and the best are psychology and geography.

 

[Robert9999]

You lumped all degrees in the same basket saying that kids shouldn't get one regardless of what it was.

I think that's a gross misrepresentation of what Crockett said. Quite correctly, in my opinion, he is saying that some "degrees" (in italics because they aren't really worth that title) are a waste of a students' time, and a waste of taxpayers money if they have to fund them.

 

[joe-90]

Well nobody disagrees with that so why bother saying it?

They should also drop the bottom third of each class each year to get rid of those that treat the place as a big pi$$-up.

 

[crockett]

Well nobody disagrees with that so why bother saying it?

They should also drop the bottom third of each class each year to get rid of those that treat the place as a big pi$$-up.

Now THAT'S a good suggestion !! Whittle them down until you have one supreme uni champion!!

 

[Johndug]

I'm sure the business world is aware of today's worthless degrees so they fix their minimum standards to meet their requirements. These days a BSc can be had comparatively easily so all the companies in my youngest daughter's profession requires a Masters from applicants.