Weapons shortage

[gas112]

old vlad running down the wests ability to go to war

'Close to the limit': The US is running out of essential weapons to send to Ukraine

Washington is "learning lessons" from the conflict about ammunition needs in a great power war, which are "far greater" than expected, a US military official says.

www.abc.net.au

https://www.farsnews.ir/en/news/14010717000673/Repr-German-Army-Has-Amm-fr-Only-Tw-Days-f-War

Restocking weapons given to Ukraine 'will take several years'

Admiral Sir Tony Radakin said the lack of industrial capacity in Britain meant that topping up supplies - such as N-Laws and Brimstone missiles - would not happen quickly.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[JohnD]

Perhaps we should drag 50-year old tanks out of museums, like Vlad.

 

[gas112]

Perhaps we should drag 50-year old tanks out of museums, like Vlad.

He may have played the smart game throwing all the old shyte in first to deplete the wests arms

 

[Pat ex]

In the case of the US, they have not given any of their arms supplies to wage war, so there is no shortage of their ability.
In the case of the UK, the report is more than 3 months old. I suspect the government have entered a procurement process by now.
But I could be wrong, they have been kind of wrapped up in their own internal affairs, lately.

 

[Pat ex]

He may have played the smart game throwing all the old shyte in first to deplete the wests arms

I thought his soldiers were young.

 

[JohnD]

Luckily for the Ukrainians, they have a large supply of tanks and ammunition abandoned by retreating Russians.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1578262947150938113

 

[gas112]

Luckily for the Ukrainians, they have a large supply of tanks and ammunition abandoned by retreating Russians.

Yep but not even a fraction of what the yanks left in Afghanistan when they ran away

 

[IT Minion]

He may have played the smart game throwing all the old shyte in first to deplete the wests arms

Which is why the invasion was led with modern kit and Ukraine was capturing T90s, but now they are only getting T62s...?

The latest is a supply of Belarusian T72As (pre 1985) being sent to Russia.

 

[Bod ...]

Fordham yesterday

 

[IT Minion]

Yep but not even a fraction of what the yanks left in Afghanistan when they ran away

That just *******s. Ukraine has captured around 460 tanks from Russia, 800 Infantry and Armoured fighting vehicles, 150 artillery pieces, 50 or so MRLS and the list goes on.

Estimates are that about half the operational Ukraine armoured force is captured kit.

The US rated it as around $7 Billion of kit left in Afghanistan. Which is a lot, but Ukraine has captured far more by any metric.

 

[gas112]

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[gas112]

That just *******s. Ukraine has captured around 460 tanks from Russia, 800 Infantry and Armoured fighting vehicles, 150 artillery pieces, 50 or so MRLS and the list goes on.

Estimates are that about half the operational Ukraine armoured force is captured kit.

The US rated it as around $7 Billion of kit left in Afghanistan. Which is a lot, but Ukraine has captured far more by any metric.

460 tanks at what 3 million each so just over a billion add the other far cheaper stuff be lucky if it takes it to 2 billion and you are still way short of 7 billion

 

[IT Minion]

460 tanks at what 3 million each so just over a billion add the other far cheaper stuff be lucky if it takes it to 2 billion and you are still way short of 7 billion

US prices Vs USSR prices. If you're looking at numbers then it dwarfs the Afghan equipment.

The Afghan government has a load of kit, some of which they can maintain but most of the high tech stuff is useless.

The Ukrainian have recovered kit they are trained on, can get spare parts for and can make use of. And are able to do that mostly because Russia can't keep their units in the field due to epic corruption at every level.

When the Russians retreat all the trucks broken down due to lack of replacement tyres and the tanks sitting around because someone sold the fuel are just lost.

 

[IT Minion]

Now, Russia is dependent on Belarus for Tanks. And Iran for drones. They're short on Tyres because they all got stolen and sold to civilians so they're using small civilian trucks to transport stuff, which is incredibly inefficient.

Their Iskander missiles require western made components, which explains why they've run out of them.

 

[transam]

This war has supplied a lucrative shop window for arms manufacturers amid a surge in demand for heavy weaponary

Emerging players are staking a claim for new markets

South Korea defence exports are expected to reach 12 billion by the end of the year

5 billion of it is going to Poland

The Turkish arms industry has seen spectacular growth

They have signed export deals with 22 countries

BAE and the German Rheinmettal company have seen a massive demand for there kit

As for the Russians hmmm

They supplied saddam with thefe state of the art air defence defence system

Yes exactly it was s***e