What amazes me is that some people actuallly believe we should have stayed in the EU

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Man make the problem - man solve the problem. The fact that there is suffering is a man made consequence. Can't get rid of man though can we?
Wish we could, or at least learn.
Rats (and pigeons) will continue to do well because we still have not learned to be clean.
And we need to find a kinder way to cull.
 
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I've seen nuisance vermin first hand and it ain't pretty. The problem is that they are not very obedient so kindness is not going to work.
 
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I've seen nuisance vermin first hand and it ain't pretty. The problem is that they are not very obedient so kindness is not going to work.
Shame you didn't get what I was saying. Hey ho.
Sorry too that kinder ways of culling isn't going to work for you, tho not sure why.
 
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But what makes humans the master of them all and in charge of animal's destiny whenever it suits us?

Some would say that their god did it (see Genesis 1:28)
But of course religious books were just made up by a bunch of long-dead old men, and selected parts of them are used to justify whatever somebody wants to do at the time.
 
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You do like to bring religion into a lot of discussions don't you JohnD?
 
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I see Gove has been proven to be a liar on another point:
Mr Clegg told a BBC documentary on Brexit that "Michael Gove obviously communicated it - well, I know he did".

Mr Gove has previously denied briefing the story, which ran in March, and the Sun has said it had two sources.

Former Justice Secretary Mr Gove has said: "I don't know how the Sun got all its information and I don't think it's really worth my adding anything to what's already been said."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-36986977

And he had the audacity to run for PM!
 
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