Wiring a 2way switch (bathroom is 1way, hallway is 2way)
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Anyway...
You basically have to choose between Plan A and Plan B.
PLAN A:
- Learn how lighting circuits are wired.
- Get a multimeter and learn how to use it.
- Identify which conductors are which at the switches and the light positions.
- Work out what should go where and connect everything up properly.
- Get an electrician.
Electrical-installation-by-guesswork is a foolish idea.
There is no Plan C for anybody sensible
I couldn't agree more.
Electrical-installation-by-guesswork is a foolish idea.
There are many sensible members on this forum who are perfectly able to guide appropriate 'beginners' through the procedures for identifying the cables, a classic example is here: https://www.diynot.com/diy/threads/garage-batten-flickering-leds-now-i-have-replaced-fluro.521280/ the irresponsible thing is not knowing when to call it quits.
There is no Plan C for anybody sensible
OP is obviously out of his (or her) depth but I don't think we have yet established their full capabilities and whether it is possible to help, or what test kit they have available.
I could use big bold letters too but I don't think I'm that opinionated or such a big head within this thread. Meanwhile I'll await any further message from Circle87 if they haven't already been frightened off by unhelpful posts.
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You couldn't agree more with what? The falsified "Er... what?" smilies in the 'quotes' you posted?
Explaining how to identify conductors with a multimeter is fine - if you read my post again you might see something relating to that in the list of items in Plan A.
What I think is irresponsible and dangerous is telling people to "try xxxx and see what happens". And what is irresponsible and short-sighted is using them as nothing more than a pair of robot hands.
And I don't think that you are good enough at reading to contribute at all.
I don't suppose that you have even a shred of an ability to provide an intelligently argued explanation of what is unhelpful or frightening about giving people information on how lighting circuits are wired, do you.
Some replies posted in blue within quoted text.
I believe I have the ability to assist others in OP's situation.
I believe I have the ability to recognise when the OP does not have the ability to do the work he or she is attempting.
I know when someone offers silly, stupid, wrong or downright dangerous advice.
I know when someone makes nasty and insulting posts.
In a few threads I've told OP's to get an electrician when it is apparent they don't have appropriate skills or dispute the accurate information they are being offered.
I have the ability to design, wire and fault find on all sorts of circuits, some of which are a hell of a lot more complicated than a simple domestic 2 way light circuit.
I believe I have the ability to assist others in OP's situation.
I believe I have the ability to recognise when the OP does not have the ability to do the work he or she is attempting.
I know when someone offers silly, stupid, wrong or downright dangerous advice.
I know when someone makes nasty and insulting posts.
In a few threads I've told OP's to get an electrician when it is apparent they don't have appropriate skills or dispute the accurate information they are being offered.
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We know he means switch!
Indeed, and sincere apologies for my mistake, and the false allegation.
I didn't tell the OP to get an electrician - I said it was an option if he didn't want to acquire the appropriate skills.
You agree with me that "Electrical-installation-by-guesswork is a foolish idea."
You agree with me that if someone is insufficiently skilled then they should get an electrician.
So just what was it about a post from me advising against electrical-installation-by-guesswork, providing links to information whereby the OP could acquire skills, and advising the use of an electrician if skills were not to be acquired, that upset you so much you saw fit to argue with me over it?
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As you are incapable of working it out for yourself I've greyed out the words I deleted in a previous post of yours. I'm sure if you can be bothered to study it you may just possibly see that what is left is an emoji that you inserted into your post and something you shouted.
Anyway...
You basically have to choose between Plan A and Plan B.
PLAN A:
PLAN B:
- Learn how lighting circuits are wired.
- Get a multimeter and learn how to use it.
- Identify which conductors are which at the switches and the light positions.
- Work out what should go where and connect everything up properly.
There are some irresponsible people here who will tell you that there is a Plan C, which is to start trying different things without really knowing what's going on, hoping to get it working by luck, or by blindly following instructions to put-this-wire-in-that-hole without any idea as to why. Please don't listen to them - you must know what, and truly understand what, you are doing.
- Get an electrician.
Electrical-installation-by-guesswork is a foolish idea.
There is no Plan C for anybody sensible
Anyway...
You basically have to choose between Plan A and Plan B.
PLAN A:
PLAN B:
- Learn how lighting circuits are wired.
- Get a multimeter and learn how to use it.
- Identify which conductors are which at the switches and the light positions.
- Work out what should go where and connect everything up properly.
There are some irresponsible people here who will tell you that there is a Plan C, which is to start trying different things without really knowing what's going on, hoping to get it working by luck, or by blindly following instructions to put-this-wire-in-that-hole without any idea as to why. Please don't listen to them - you must know what, and truly understand what, you are doing.
- Get an electrician.
Electrical-installation-by-guesswork is a foolish idea.
There is no Plan C for anybody sensible
As you are incapable of working it out for yourself I've greyed out the words I deleted in a previous post of yours. I'm sure if you can be bothered to study it you may just possibly see that what is left is an emoji that you inserted into your post and something you shouted.
This suggestion that there is no alternative to your oft repeated opinions, OR, there is nobody sensible.
It is apparent from a multitude of previous threads that the Plan C is alive and kicking on a forum specifically formed for sensible experts to help DIYers when they have got stuck.
If I were trying to be rude, I'd suggest that as you don't like the format of this forum perhaps you may prefer to find a forum that you do like the format of.
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Indeed, and sincere apologies for my mistake, and the false allegation.
(Although I dispute the "shouting" part...)
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