worchester bosch classic or compact

[andy1494]

Although i agree with Guru on parts availability (merchants carry around 98%of spares other 2%cosmetics my guy tells me) and the back up is good,
I look after a fair few and seem to replace pinholed plastic shyte like its going out of fashion,
After a day off repairing worcesters my hands are usually bruised and bleeding.

Go for a Baxi platinum ,10 year warranty and its a mid priced boiler, i have one myself purely for the warranty.

Intergas atag vaillant and worcester all more expensive with warranties ranging from 2 years to 7

thanks for that will take s look at it before a choose one

 

[Dan Robinson]

Thanks for that if i couldn't find answer that why you ask not berated me, it all,needs straight forward answer which i no have thankyou

You didn't look very hard.


Intergas, Atag and Vaillant have 5 year warranties. Vaillants have 7 if fitted by advanced installers.

 

[simond]

To answer your question;

Compact is better suited for tight locations, is a new model and carries a price premium because of its small size.

Classic is a German based design which needs more space on the wall, but has been in production - with a few small changes - over the last 13yrs.

We have had a couple of isolated problems with the Classic heat exchanger but all have been dealt with the typical no fuss can do attitude that Worcester offer. Many Worcester installers have an 8yr warranty deal they can give you.

If you want to try a niche model from a manufacturer you may not be familiar with, that is recommended by vocal minority of enthusiastic technicians on here, go ahead.

But bear in mind there is virtually nothing to choose from in terms of efficiency between one boiler and another these days (due to legislation), so I'd suggest your choice should be down to reliability and support.

I can't be sure of either with new brands, so I'm sticking with known quantities. Worcester Bosch support is so good, and we do get the occasional fleece. But I'd fit them day in day out without the fleeces - which incidentally, most boiler manufacturers hand out.

Fact is, to find out whether the 'flavour of the month' boiler on here is any good, I would need to have fitted around 100 of them and seen them run for over 5yrs first. That's 100 customers I'm taking money off and using as test pilots.

Not going to happen.

If you search this forum going back over the years, you'll see Keston was recommended, then Remeha Avanta, etc. Both turned out to be a pile of plip plops. When Viessmann launched their cheap range in 2005 they were highly thought of here - 80% died in the first year.

If you must have one of the small volume niche imported boilers, get one of the specialist advocates on here to fit it, and let us know over the next few years how it goes. I think many (inc myself) would be interested and value the feedback.

 

[andy1494]

To answer your question;

Compact is better suited for tight locations, is a new model and carries a price premium because of its small size.

Classic is a German based design which needs more space on the wall, but has been in production - with a few small changes - over the last 13yrs.

We have had a couple of isolated problems with the Classic heat exchanger but all have been dealt with the typical no fuss can do attitude that Worcester offer. Many Worcester installers have an 8yr warranty deal they can give you.

If you want to try a niche model from a manufacturer you may not be familiar with, that is recommended by vocal minority of enthusiastic technicians on here, go ahead.


thanks for,that Simon
But bear in mind there is virtually nothing to choose from in terms of efficiency between one boiler and another these days (due to legislation), so I'd suggest your choice should be down to reliability and support.

I can't be sure of either with new brands, so I'm sticking with known quantities. Worcester Bosch support is so good, and we do get the occasional fleece. But I'd fit them day in day out without the fleeces - which incidentally, most boiler manufacturers hand out.

Fact is, to find out whether the 'flavour of the month' boiler on here is any good, I would need to have fitted around 100 of them and seen them run for over 5yrs first. That's 100 customers I'm taking money off and using as test pilots.

Not going to happen.

If you search this forum going back over the years, you'll see Keston was recommended, then Remeha Avanta, etc. Both turned out to be a pile of plip plops. When Viessmann launched their cheap range in 2005 they were highly thought of here - 80% died in the first year.

If you must have one of the small volume niche imported boilers, get one of the specialist advocates on here to fit it, and let us know over the next few years how it goes. I think many (inc myself) would be interested and value the feedback.

 

[Dan Robinson]

I keep telling you Simon, I've been fitting Intergas for very nearly 10 years

 

[srhawksy]

Check out Baxis duo tec and platinum boilers

 

[doitall]

Installed my Intergas early January 2011, and one in my Daughters a few months later.

And No the hot water supply hasn't fured up yet which may be down to the Hydroflow 38 or not rolleyes.

 

[boilerdoktor]

Simond your post was post of the day for me pal!

To the OP both excellent boilers and I ve fitted 1000's with very few probs. worcester really do offer a no quibble guarantee unlike many other manufacturers.

If you have plenty of room around the appliance go for a classic, but if its going in a kitchen etc go for a compact.

You wont regret it! get it fitted by a worcester approved installer and he will indeed turn up in a nice fleece but he ll give you an 8 year warranty with worcester

 

[Dan Robinson]

They were flocking useless when I called them today to ask them to clarify a question they had answered poorly by email.

Errm. Errrm. You need to talk to the person that sent the email.

I don't know who sent it there is no name. Only Worcester Bosch Technical Department

.

But i cant answer the question

But you are in WB technical department?

Eeerm but I don't know the details

If the pipe feeding the boiler is 15mm but the boiler is getting the required inlet pressure, will the warranty be void?

Eeeeeeeeeerrrmmm well, if all appliances are running on full power and the gas is still correct then I wouldn't think so.

Correct gas pressure is a given.

Well I wouldn't think so then

That is not what this email intimates.

Eeerm... well I don't know the details. You'll nee to speak to the person that wrote the email.

FFS.


Pathetic.


Highflow manual - years after i reported a rather major omission - STILL didn't have an amendment several years later. Confused the hell out of the tech muppet when I asked him to follow the commissioning instructions

We won't mention the PRV's then shall we? .

 

[bazdaman]

The prvs are not that bad actually if you have skinny hands like me and the pipe dont go behind boiler!

 

[Dan Robinson]

Well that's me fooked then

6'7" and 125kG.

 

[Gasguru]

Try changing the PRV on an Intergas....if you're lucky and there's room you can swap the head, otherwise total PITA.

 

[Dan Robinson]

Never had to

From what I can see though it isn't much harder than any standard Caleffi - just unclip that little side panel off.

Next one going in on the 30th, will have a pop then.

f course you could just fit it OV then problem solved