Alternative to an installation isolator...

[ban-all-sheds]

 

[Steve]

You laugh, but . . . . Why not have combined cutout and electric meters with ceeform or similar sockets on them. They would be tamper proof at least.

 

[Spark123]

See those type of plugs a lot on battery operated vehicles such as fork lifts.

 

[ban-all-sheds]

This one is sold as a vehicle winch accessory.

But it's 35mm² tri-rated cable and a connector rated at 175A 600V.

Could also be handy for those who believe that anything plugged in does not come under Part P....

 

[russellellwood]

Could also be handy for those who believe that anything plugged in does not come under Part P

So if you have one of these between your CU and meter, would that class your CU as pluged in?

 

[RF Lighting]

It would still be notifiable even if it were. That's the joke.

Are those connecters rated for AC?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

So if you have one of these between your CU and meter, would that class your CU as pluged in?

Makes your entire house a portable appliance.

It would still be notifiable even if it were. That's the joke.

There are people who genuinely think that if something is plugged in it is not permanent and therefore not within the scope of Part P.

Are those connecters rated for AC?

Yes.

 

[333rocky333]

Used to fit those on milkfloat chargers.
The connections were quite exposed when unplugged.

 

[FourFootMedia]

We have similar connectors (if not the same) in our UPS battery racks for easy swapping out of batteries.

 

[ericmark]

I have been considering exactly that method to isolate the LV (Mains) supply. Mainly as I can't get reasonable sized two pole isolators. I think A1 method to isolate 12VDC supply to inverter.

Also there is no requirement to notify anything domestic under Part P unless it classed as a building. Building control only controls buildings and on my sons narrow boat not even 17th Edition applies.

If you were to for example buy land and live in a caravan with a WMDU to supply anything on the land then I am uncertain as to if a house is then built if the rest of land would come under building control? When a garden is supplied from house then garden is controlled by building control but what are the rules when supplied from WMDU?

I have seen a few sites where first all that existed was the power point to power boat and then over years more and more has arrived on the land. Sheds, Garages, etc. I have often wondered what happens as I would assume a Shed is a building? But if it is considered as necessary to store lawn mower etc. Is it then agricultural and does it need planing permission?

I am sure these canal side plot owners go to council and say "Can I build a shed and do you want to charge me rates?" especially when only access is by boat as normally opposite side of cut to tow path!

 

[ccam108]

It's a good point. Why not have 63A or 125A IEC 60309 connectors in installations? It would provide a much more secure way of isolating than using a DP isolator, plus it's somewhere to plug in a temp. DB if rewiring.

Colin C

 

[ban-all-sheds]

And an awful temptation to plug in an IEC 60309 to BS 1363 converter..

 

[ban-all-sheds]

WMDU

Weapons of Mass Destruction Undiscovered?

 

[ccam108]

And an awful temptation to plug in an IEC 60309 to BS 1363 converter..

125A to single 13A socket would be "fine" as the fuse in the plug would protect everything downstream. Assuming you can get 35mm cable in a 13A socket lol!

(Just kidding BTW)

 

[Spark123]

It's a good point. Why not have 63A or 125A IEC 60309 connectors in installations? It would provide a much more secure way of isolating than using a DP isolator, plus it's somewhere to plug in a temp. DB if rewiring.

Colin C

Cost.
Meter tails are not flexiable.
Would you connect the earthing conductor through it? If so you risk having a potential difference between the said earthing conductor and extraneous conductive parts of the installation when it is unplugged.