As I said.... they're USELESS!!!!

[gregers]

and i wonder if this chap whos van is sitting on the travelers site,rings his insurance company and they in turn contact the police for the details wil agree with the police and pay out without any hesitation.
or will it be sorry chap youve lost your van and WE AINT PAYING,so the poor b.ugger loses out twice.


was watching a cop show a few days ago(no doubt a repeat)where they chased a car into a travelers site,they got the car back but they absolutely s hit themselves when they all started comming out of there vans.they got out of there sharpish like.
and the 2 villains who dispersed into a caravan got away with it.

 

[snico]

and your point is....

The police have better things to do than risk their lives retrieving scrapyard junk.

Exactly - they have paperwork and meetings and focus groups to attend, then a couple of dogs to kill. They also have to plan sufficient crowd "kettling" to ensure that a death occurs. All of this obviously will require focus groups and early retirement due to stress.

The average police officer will spend 3 1/2 hours processing the relevant paperwork, even for a very minor offence. A police officer would prefer to be out on patrol rather than sat at a desk.....people seem to forget that!

They will be filling out Intel forms, crime reports, missing property forms, information for intel operations, shift admin paperwork , the list goes on.

All this for a kid stealing a lipstick from a shop! The average officer will spend approx 50% of their working time in a police station, when they want to be on the job. About 20% of their time is on reassurance duties. Now none of this is down to the police officer.

The reason you dont see many officers on the beat is because most patrols are taken from a vehicle, for obvious reasons of getting to crimes quicker. Officers are also always doubled up for safety reasons which is pretty obvious these days.

The police themselves are governed by lots of new rules and regulations that prohibit they way the general public would expect things to be done. In ideal world we would all like to see more of a polce presence, but in this day and age its a rarity.

 

[dextrous]

Booh fu**ing hoo!

 

[snico]

Booh fu**ing hoo!

Well dont boo hooo when you question then police, pretty simple

 

[dextrous]

Booh fu**ing hoo!

Well dont boo hooo when you question then police, pretty simple

I'm not having a dig at you Snico. You seem to be suggesting that they "feel sorry" for themselves and that maybe we should too!

I really don't have sympathy for the plight of the police. There may well be elements of truth in your argument, but it doesn't explain why they feel it appropriate to prosecute so many soft targets (with all that paperwork you refer to) , kill innocent bystanders (including their own livestock) and then do all they can to sound as though they've investigated the incident without anyone actually being properly disciplined or carrying the can. Nor does it explain why they employ people with "'isms" which make them potentially unsuitable for their position, and who definitely require close monitorig. Etc etc etc.

 

[Blasphemous]

Yep, I refer to the title of the thread.

 

[snico]

Booh fu**ing hoo!

Well dont boo hooo when you question then police, pretty simple

I'm not having a dig at you Snico. You seem to be suggesting that they "feel sorry" for themselves and that maybe we should too!

I really don't have sympathy for the plight of the police. There may well be elements of truth in your argument, but it doesn't explain why they feel it appropriate to prosecute so many soft targets (with all that paperwork you refer to) , kill innocent bystanders (including their own livestock) and then do all they can to sound as though they've investigated the incident without anyone actually being properly disciplined or carrying the can. Nor does it explain why they employ people with "'isms" which make them potentially unsuitable for their position, and who definitely require close monitorig. Etc etc etc.

There is no feeling sorry for themselves. Your average officer wants to be out on patrol and not sitting in a station filling out paperwork, It would be ideal if civilian administrators could do this job but with cutbacks on the horizon there is no chance of this.

Should there be more police officers? yes of course there should. More policing could then be done. Cheshire averages approx 5000 crimes /reported crimes per month, they have approx 2200 active police officers. Obviously these are not all on shift at once, so you can see the amount of policing that is required if all these crimes are dealt with with in the way the public expected which would be quickly and thorough. Its just not possible

There have been many officers nationwide who have left the force because they spend their working day at a desk, thats not the officers fault is it?

 

[dextrous]

Obviously these are not all on shift at once, so you can see the amount of policing that is required if all these crimes are dealt with with in the way the public expected which would be quickly and thorough. Its just not possible

Maybe, but I stand by the charge against them of spending too long on soft targets at the expense of more pressing criminal activity.

There have been many officers nationwide who have left the force because they spend their working day at a desk, thats not the officers fault is it?

No, but it is clearly a problem when some officers (of ranks across the spectrum) who should go don't, and their incompetence is allowed to continue.

 

[noseall]

-they have paperwork and meetings and focus groups to attend, then a couple of dogs to kill. They also have to plan sufficient crowd "kettling" to ensure that a death occurs. All of this obviously will require focus groups and early retirement due to stress.

You're just being picky.

 

[Blasphemous]

I refer to the title yet again....

A man who took a picture of his son while they were out shopping has been accused of being a paedophile and threatened with arrest.

Kevin Geraghty-Shewan had taken four-year-old Ben to the Bridges Shopping Centre in Sunderland to spend £10 the boy had been given as a treat.

The dad told Sky News: "Ben spotted a children's ride which had a train on it and wanted to have a go because he's obsessed with trains.

"When he got on my wife suggested we take a picture of him.

"I took the picture on my phone and suddenly this security guard came up and told me it wasn't allowed because I could be a paedophile.

"I told him Ben was my own son. But he said I couldn't prove it. He said there is a real problem with paedophiles and that if I didn't like it, he'd call the manager.

"A few minutes later... a policeman walked in and approached me, so they must have been tracking me on the CCTV.

"He said he'd received a complaint a man matching my description was taking pictures of children and wanted my name and address.

"I told him it was ridiculous because it was my own son. He then started asking me what I was doing in Sunderland, asked for my name and address and told me he had the right to delete my pictures.

"I got annoyed and raised my voice a bit, then he threatened me with arrest for breach of the peace."

Mr Geraghty-Shewan was so outraged by the incident, he posted a picture of the security guard on his website.

When contacted by Sky News the Bridges said in a statement: "We take the safety at all our shopping centres very seriously.

"We do ask our security guards across the estate to be diligent in implementing our security measures, which includes monitoring photography in our centres.

"Unfortunately on this occasion what should have been a simple polite conversation led to a misunderstanding and we apologise for any offence caused.

"It is always our aim to implement our security procedures with the minimum of fuss and disruption to our shoppers."

TOTALLY USELESS!!!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK...on-While-Out-Shopping/Article/201002415560029

 

[Bodgeit and scarper ltd]

most of the police come from the same background as the crooks, and they stick up for there own kind

 

[crockett]

Do we go back to the 'Life on Mars' days, of busting doors down and 'slapping up' perps ? Probably not, but I do think that respect, and indeed a bit of fear, has gone when it comes to the police these days. By all accounts the police have too much admin to wade through these days, which apparently prevents them from being out on the beat more.

 

[Johnmelad502]

Do we go back to the 'Life on Mars' days, of busting doors down and 'slapping up' perps ? Probably not, but I do think that respect, and indeed a bit of fear, has gone when it comes to the police these days. By all accounts the police have too much admin to wade through these days, which apparently prevents them from being out on the beat more.

And when they are out, hit the soft options and ignore the more serious crimes, especially if it involves travellers.

 

[dextrous]

By all accounts the police have too much admin to wade through these days, which apparently prevents them from being out on the beat more.

And when they are out, hit the soft options and ignore the more serious crimes, especially if it involves travellers.

Precisely. Same amount of paperwork but less hassle at the coal face. And less value.

 

[noseall]

Rozzer bashing.......

Get a life!