one drill bit drills all

[ladylola]

Flipping through the channels last night when the adverts were on I stopped at one of the shopping channels where there was a man demonstrating these drill bits to a frankly clueless blonde presenter. Her lack of knowledge aside these "drill all drill bits " looked on the face of it quite impressive the same bit drilling cast iron ,brick, tiles and wood straight after each other. He also rammed the bit onto a grinding wheel and didn't blunt it. He'd just wrecked a couple of regular bits on the wheel before hand.
I'm not in all honesty thinking of buying them as I've got a workshop full of drill bits that should last me a while yet but would be interested to know if they really are as good as was claimed last night.
One confusing thing is that it says these bits are cryagenacally frozen to 1100 degrees , whatever that means
They also had on offer a set of screwdriver bits that I didn't see in use but came with a 10 year warranty which seems an incredible lifespan for screwdriver bits. Now if that were true then I may be more interested. Anybody have any experience?

the website for those that haven't seen the programme
http://www.drillalldrillbits.com/

 

[cajar]

Website is setting off my bullshit detectors mate.

"Cryagenacally frozen to 1100 degrees the Drill All Drill Bits are made to last !!

Most Drill Bits get damaged when they get hot but because the Drill All Drill Bits withstand upto 1100 degrees they dont "

CryOgenics is about freezing temperatures, how would it stop a drill getting hot unless you kept it frozen?

10 year guarantee? Will the limited company exist in 10 months never mind 10 years. Looks like a quick flog off of rolson drill bits.

 

[ladylola]

cajar I think you've found my level of cynicism
I 'm inclined to think it's all gimmick and I've never brought off these channels but would be interested to know if anybody actually has

 

[joinerjohn]

The lowest temperature possible is only -273.15° C, or –459.67 degrees F so quite how this company have managed to get them down to 1100 is something scientists would love to know. They can't even spell cryogenically, correctly. Doesn't instil any confidence in them, does it ?

 

[ladylola]

Hmm , you'll also have noted that it says "frozen to 1100 degrees" . Laws of physics aside should that not say -1100 degrees and degrees what centigrade , fafrenheit or apples?

 

[Alarm]

B*ll*x, tried one of these once a load of sh1te.

Tungsten tipped or Cobalt is what us locksmiths use if we have to drill hardplate.
Or we grind our own masonry bits to the angles we need, but with the cost of a decent Tungsten (About £3.00 now wholesale) we use them.
I use it in a cordless for general purpose after it is no longer good for hardplate. Brick/Block ect.

 

[Monkeh]

They're just tungsten tipped drills, shaped to have cutting edges (unlike blunt, impacting masonry drills).

For most things they're kinda average compared to a drill designed for the use. They also have a bad tendency to lose the tip if they're cheap.

And yes, their site is full of crap and written by an illiterate 12 year old.

 

[ladylola]

B*ll*x, tried one of these once a load of sh1te

Thanks , that's the sort of first hand answer from someone who has actually put them to the test that I was hoping for .
I wonder if there will be any " there're the dogs dangleys in drill bits" type of answers.

As I said I'm not going to buy either way, if nothing else it's the sort of thing that gets laughed at on sites.

 

[Alarm]

Pro bit of kit for site work.

http://www.hilti.co.uk/holuk/page/m...edetail.jsf?&nodeId=-317841&selProdOid=419476

 

[Deleted member 174758]

From the same site's Trems and Conditions:

"Warranty

All our drill bits carry a 10 year warranty if you should manage to break snap or bend 1 of our drill bits please return the drill bit along with a cheque for £4.95 to cover p&p to Triple X Trading Ltd,Unit 104,91 Mayflower Street,Plymouth,Devon,PL1 1SB "

Seems to me that a cheap bit plus postage won't work out to £4.95. Or maybe I'm just a born sceptic

 

[TicklyT]

Puts me in mind of the story of a company that tried to sell some of their "revolutionary new drill bits - tough enough to drill anything - hard enough to hold their cutting edge" by sending out free samples to a local engineering company. The office handed the samples on to the shop foreman for his opinion.

Shortly afterwards the foreman returned the samples to the prospective supplier with a note saying "Thanks, but no thanks - we will stick to what we already use.

When they examined the returned samples , each had an axial hole bored the entire length of the bit from tip to shank.

 

[Alarm]

Puts me in mind of the story of a company that tried to sell some of their "revolutionary new drill bits - tough enough to drill anything - hard enough to hold their cutting edge" by sending out free samples to a local engineering company. The office handed the samples on to the shop foreman for his opinion.

Shortly afterwards the foreman returned the samples to the prospective supplier with a note saying "Thanks, but no thanks - we will stick to what we already use.

When they examined the returned samples , each had an axial hole bored the entire length of the bit from tip to shank.

Heard that one before, I seriously hope it is true.

 

[alumni]

I use the Bosch multifunction. Ok for light work but even these don't like concrete/hard brick.

 

[Purity]

I fell for the Triple X Trading demo (along with many others) at Grand Designs Live.

Just got round to using them for the first time - and you are all correct. They are rubbish. Tip fell out of the first one drilling first hole. Second bit is ruined on 3rd hole.

Not worth the 4.95 return P&P to get them replaced - they are probably making money from that as well.

Best place for them is the bin. Stay well clear!

 

[ladylola]

Thanks for that purity and welcome to the forum.
It's pretty much as I suspected. I suppose the old adage that if something sounds too good to be true it almost always is.