Something which, because of mutation/evolution, wasn't quite a chicken.
Fatally Flawed - an E-Petition
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Ah, right! However, all this chicken and egg stuff is really for kids. How about upping things to a sophisticated adult level and ask about energy and matter? !!
Kind Regards, John
Au contraire. Darwin was a genius.
Is this from someone who admits to watching Big Brother?
OK, lets get simple again before all of the eggs are scrambled and the chickens desert the roost.
Primary Legislation is not required, there is already legislation which enables the minister concerned to make or amend regulations in the form of a Statutory Instrument (S.I.). The plugs and sockets regulations are such an S.I., "UK Plugs & Sockets etc. (Safety) Regulations 1994 (S.I. 1994/1768)". Trevor's petition "urges the government to extend regulation". It is reasonable to assume that the minister could, if the petition were acted upon, either modify S.I. 1994/1768 or create a new S.I. as appropriate. The preceding discussion has been about whether there would need to be a pre-existing new standard prior to regulatory change, or (as I suspect) the existing "Notified Bodies" (who would be made responsible for approving the newly regulated devices) could adapt the relevant parts of the existing BS 1363.
How does the R2 not conform to the correct dimensions?
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I know - it was I who started that 'preceding discussion'! However I still don't think it would be either reasonable or practical for the minister to amend or create an S.I. until either a new Standard or an adaptation of BS 1363 was in place. In fact, I would personally be very critical of any minister who enacted legislation without being able to have a totally clear idea of what its effects would/might be!
Kind Regards, John
Am I alone in not being the one who is in charge of the TV remote control in my household?Is this from someone who admits to watching Big Brother?
Kind Regards, John.
The effects would be to eliminate some dangerous products. Why would you be critical of that?
I obviously would not be critical of that, if that were the effect. However, there is no way that you, I or, more importantly, the minister could know for sure that such would be the effect - if the legislation that (s)he enacted mandated compliance with a Standard (or adaptation of a Standard) that didn't yet exist. For all (s)he (or we) knew, the (future) Standard (or adaptation) could have the effect of eliminating some safe products and legitimising some dangerous ones! Signing blank cheques is rarely wise.
Kind Regards, John.
That would exclude half the readership
I lack the energy to do it and after all does it really matter ?
My criticism is that there would be "unforseen" side effects, some of which could have an adverse effect and increase dangers.
The legislation banning hand guns appears to be a very good idea.
It did nothing to stop the use of hand guns in crime.
It increased the risk to the public from one section of gun users.
Before the ban those "unstable" people with a gun fetish were able to use hand guns under strict supervision at registered gun clubs and the guns they used ( and maybe owned ) were kept under under lock and key in secure premises and not in the house of the gun fetish.
After the ban those with a gun fetish went underground, bought owned and used hand guns illegally and without any supervision. These unstable people are now much more dangerous than before the ban was imposed. Had the ban been better thought out the need of these people to have supervised use of a hand gun on a licensed shooting range would have been taken into account.
A lizard laid an egg and a chicken hatched out.
Charles Darwen would be turning in his grave if he were dead.
Do you not follow evolution?
Once upon a time there were lizards who not only held full lizard-ship but were completely lizard-like and not chicken-like.
Over time some lizards became more chicken-like whilst still retaining full lizard-ship.
Eventually some became so chicken-like that they lost lizard-ship but gained chicken-ship whilst still being somewhat lizard-like.
Eventually some became totally chicken-like whilst non lizard-like.
So at some point in time a lizard laid an egg and a chicken hatched out.
All thanks to Mr Darwen inventing Evolution thereby allowing this to happen.
It is a very simple question to answer just in the same way that "how long is a piece of string?" is a simple question to answer.
The most difficult question to answer is "what is the most difficult question to answer?" .
And seeing as the answer is the question it makes that simple anyway.
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Whether by legislation, encouraging good practice, discouraging bad practice or whatever we should be striving to stop these nasty things being used. They are being used by people who believe they increase safety whereas in fact the opposite is true. To me banning at point of sale seems a good idea and should be a hanging offence (Oh Ok then ! heavy fines and imprisonment)
Charles Darwen would be turning in his grave if he were dead.
Do you not follow evolution?
Once upon a time there were lizards who not only held full lizard-ship but were completely lizard-like and not chicken-like.
Over time some lizards became more chicken-like whilst still retaining full lizard-ship.
Eventually some became so chicken-like that they lost lizard-ship but gained chicken-ship whilst still being somewhat lizard-like.
Eventually some became totally chicken-like whilst non lizard-like.
So at some point in time a lizard laid an egg and a chicken hatched out.
All thanks to Mr Darwen inventing Evolution thereby allowing this to happen.
It is a very simple question to answer just in the same way that "how long is a piece of string?" is a simple question to answer.
The most difficult question to answer is "what is the most difficult question to answer?" .
And seeing as the answer is the question it makes that simple anyway.
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Whether by legislation, encouraging good practice, discouraging bad practice or whatever we should be striving to stop these nasty things being used. They are being used by people who believe they increase safety whereas in fact the opposite is true. To me banning at point of sale seems a good idea and should be a hanging offence (Oh Ok then ! heavy fines and imprisonment)
That was when the lizard's husband realised she was having an affair with a rooster....
The reason it exists is to allow things to be inserted into sockets and make contact with the L&N terminals.
Would you like to see that activity banned?
No, because I've never looked at them.
But would it meet the requirements of BS 1363 with respect to access to live parts as tested using a BS 3042 test pin II?
Now there's an interesting concept.
A tool must be made illegal unless it can be used on everything the user might try.
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