Calls For A Snap General Election

[securespark]

A GE must be called following TM's victory because she has not earned a mandate from the public to be PM, opposition parties have said.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Does the P.M. decide what to do on his/her own?

Will she not carry on the mandate given by the last GE?



I realise that those who disagree will use any excuse to cry foul but the country does not vote on, or choose in any way, who is the P.M., or Cabinet Minister (real or shadow), Senior Officials, Council Officials, Peers, Bishops, Monarch or any other.
Just recently a few Mayors and Police Commissioners for some reason.

You just get to tick a piece of paper once in four or so years - THAT'S IT - and then M.P.s go off and do what they think fit.
If you have voted the same way as (usually) 40% of the electorate then you think you have helped choose the Government.
Nothing would change anyway no matter how you vote. Wait and see.

This is hailed as a great democracy and an example to the world.

What is great here is the fact that life is good (thanks to a few odd governments) - they let us have just enough to be comfortable and complacent and their behaviour is not too intolerable - and the people put up with it because that's what we do - in England. We have been trained.
The others are somewhat more excitable because they have been trampled by "The English"; what they don't realise is that so were the English.


Those in charge have also realised the secret of allowing free speech - let them say whatever they want, just don't take any notice.

 

[Deleted member 63160]

A GE must be called following TM's victory because she has not earned a mandate from the public to be PM, opposition parties have said.

Like what Labour did with good old Gordon B??

 

[Deleted member 63160]

Those in charge have also realised the secret of allowing free speech - let them say whatever they want, just don't take any notice.

So true.

 

[JohnD]

A GE must be called following TM's victory because she has not earned a mandate from the public to be PM, opposition parties have said.

Like what Labour did with good old Gordon B??

Osborne and Hague both objected when Brown announced he would resign, because they feared an "unelected" Labour PM.

Like mitch, and all politicians, they have very selective memories:

"Since 1900 Britain has had 22 different Prime Ministers. Our list below shows that in that period there have been 14 occasions on which 13 different Prime Ministers have come to power other than through a general election."

Year Prime Minister Party
2007 Gordon Brown Labour
1990 John Major Conservative
1976 James Callaghan Labour
1963 Sir Alec Douglas-Home Conservative
1957 Harold Macmillan Conservative
1955 Sir Anthony Eden Conservative
1940 Winston Churchill Conservative
1937 Neville Chamberlain Conservative
1935 Stanley Baldwin Conservative
1923 Stanley Baldwin Conservative
1916 David Lloyd George Liberal
1908 Herbert H. Asquith Liberal
1905 Henry Campbell-Bannerman Liberal
1902 Arthur Balfour Conservative

https://fullfact.org/news/unelected-prime-ministers-common-or-not/

 

[crystal ball]

A GE must be called following TM's victory because she has not earned a mandate from the public to be PM, opposition parties have said.

Like what Labour did with good old Gordon B??

Osborne and Hague both objected when Brown announced he would resign, because they feared an "unelected" Labour PM.

Like mitch, and all politicians, they have very selective memories:

"Since 1900 Britain has had 22 different Prime Ministers. Our list below shows that in that period there have been 14 occasions on which 13 different Prime Ministers have come to power other than through a general election."

Year Prime Minister Party
2007 Gordon Brown Labour
1990 John Major Conservative
1976 James Callaghan Labour
1963 Sir Alec Douglas-Home Conservative
1957 Harold Macmillan Conservative
1955 Sir Anthony Eden Conservative
1940 Winston Churchill Conservative
1937 Neville Chamberlain Conservative
1935 Stanley Baldwin Conservative
1923 Stanley Baldwin Conservative
1916 David Lloyd George Liberal
1908 Herbert H. Asquith Liberal
1905 Henry Campbell-Bannerman Liberal
1902 Arthur Balfour Conservative

https://fullfact.org/news/unelected-prime-ministers-common-or-not/

Surely you mean Blair

 

[JohnD]

Nope.

"Gordon Brown's decision to announce his resignation has raised the prospect that Britain could have a second successive Prime Minister without a direct mandate from the British electorate.The move has been widely interpreted as an attempt to secure a Labour — Lib Dem pact in which a new Labour leader would become Prime Minister at the end of September. George Osborne said such an arrangement would lack democratic legitimacy because it would be another government led by a Labour Prime Minister not elected by the British people. Fellow Tory negotiator William Hague yesterday said the possibility would be "unacceptable to a great majority of the people in this country"."

and

"Pressure is mounting on the Liberal Democrats to make a decision as to who they will make a deal with to form the next government, following the resignation of Gordon Brown.

As talks go into their fifth day, Shadow Chancellor George Osborne said talks with the Conservatives had been going well, and the ball was now in the Lib Dem's court.

"It is clearly in the country's interest and the public's interest to have a strong and stable government," he said. "

 

[crystal ball]

I do remember now, the tories also demanded an election when GB took office, am I right?

 

[charliegolf]

A GE is the last thing the country needs. For one thing, it will be manouvered around to 'a ballot on the legitemacy of the referendum', and that ain't gonna help anyone.

 

[jeds]

I do remember now, the tories also demanded an election when GB took office, am I right?

It was different then - there was no fixed term act. Since the fixed term act there are limited circumstances when a general election can be called by a PM, none of which exist at present.

 

[empip]

Fixed-term Parliaments Act 2011
http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN06111

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[EFLImpudence]

So why are the idiots calling for a GE then?

Do they not know?

 

[HawkEye244]

Look forward to seeing this total non-story on the BBC news tonight - great entertainment

 

[Deleted member 63160]

A GE must be called following TM's victory because she has not earned a mandate from the public to be PM, opposition parties have said.

Like what Labour did with good old Gordon B??

Like mitch, and all politicians, they have very selective memories:

"Since 1900 Britain has had 22 different Prime Ministers. Our list below shows that in that period there have been 14 occasions on which 13 different Prime Ministers have come to power other than through a general election."

Year Prime Minister Party
2007 Gordon Brown Labour

Why are you knocking me for selective memory? I just pointed out that Gordy was slipped in without a GE.

 

[JohnD]

As was Conservative John Major. It isn't a particularly Conservative or Labour habit.

And political parties are always trying to score points.