Why do we need negotiators?

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Some dic*head, who is supposed to be ignoring me, keeps asking me questions.
What is the point if he (supposedly) cannot see the answer.
It makes gasbanni look ingenious!
You would have to be really stupid to make gasbanni look intelligent.

I am mentally retarded which I have told u or posted about on several occasions

That explains it.

 

[transam]

him again wa ha b

Is the missis back from Perth yet

 

[motorbiking]

If you start a post and have a sentence with a question mark, then one assumes you want to hear others views and opinions. If you assume that everyone who thinks differently or votes differently is some kind of ******, then you'll never understand the alternative view.

however if the aim was just to critique their answer with no real interest in understanding then crack on with the remoaning/quitering.

which is it?

 

[noseall]

If you start a post and have a sentence with a question mark, then one assumes you want to hear others views and opinions. If you assume that everyone who thinks differently or votes differently is some kind of ******, then you'll never understand the alternative view.

however if the aim was just to critique their answer with no real interest in understanding then crack on with the remoaning/quitering.

which is it?

Who are you asking?

 

[noseall]

If you assume that everyone who thinks differently or votes differently is some kind of ******,

No, but it is a fact that a lot of Quitters are poorly educated and gullible.

however if the aim was just to critique their answer with no real interest in understanding then crack on with the remoaning/quitering.

Thanks. You are beginning to get the hang of this (GD) forum. You are free to leave.

 

[noseall]

Q. Why do we need negotiators?

A. So that the UK can grovel to the EU and beg for a deal meaning we have the same situation as prior to quitting only we will be in a poorer position. At least the EU won't be able to tell us what to do (most of the time).

Is the above about right?

Roger the Racist/Fraud/Liar would be happy pulling out of the talks now. Surely you quitters would be happier severing all ties with the dreaded EU?

Is that succinct enough for you Motorbike?

 

[motorbiking]

A really interesting article on the dumb quitters vs smart remoaners

http://www.statsguy.co.uk/brexit-voting-and-education/

Worth remembering that nobody has any data about the way someone voted and their education levels. As someone speaking with both a 1st and a masters, I can say some of the smartest (and richest) people i know have neither.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

A really interesting article on the dumb quitters vs smart remoaners

http://www.statsguy.co.uk/brexit-voting-and-education/

Worth remembering that nobody has any data about the way someone voted and their education levels. As someone speaking with both a 1st and a masters, I can say some of the smartest (and richest) people i know have neither.

Case proven?

Anyway, the question I was interested in at the start was whether the percentage of graduates was an independent predictor of voting, even after taking account of age.

The short answer is yes, it is.....
As you can see, it’s still a very strong relationship, so we can conclude that the percentage of graduates is a good predictor of voting, even after taking account of age......
Again, the relationship still seems very strong, so the percentage of graduates really does seem to be a robust independent predictor of voting.....
So after all this I think it is safe to conclude that education is a remarkably strong predictor of voting outcome in the EU referendum, and that that relationship is not much affected by age or ethnicity......
Here the relationship between education and voting remain becomes even stronger after adjusting for SES. This shows us that it really is education that is correlated with voting behaviour,

from your link.

It rubbishes your viewpoint. Perhaps you did not understand the article?

 

[motorbiking]

Read the whole article including caveats

It shows areas with high proportion of young, graduates and ethnically diverse populations were more likely to vote remain.

It's fair to say that young people are more likely to have degrees than old people. Does that make them smarter?

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

Read the whole article including caveats

It shows areas with high proportion of young, graduates and ethnically diverse populations were more likely to vote remain.

That was noseall's point, that areas with high numbers of graduates were more likely to vote remain! That education is a reliable factor in predicting voting behaviour.
The study applied various other factors, such as socio-economic, age, ethnicity, but the result always remained reliably robust.

 

[JohnD]

Worth remembering that nobody has any data about the way someone voted and their education levels.

Except for the hundreds of thousands who were willing to answer the pollsters who ask questions including "do you read a daily newspaper? Which one? Are you working? What sort of job? Do you normally vote? Is there a party you usually vote for? Which one? Did you go to university? What did you study? Do you have a professional qualification? What age did you finish your education? Are you a vegan? Did you vote in the Brexit referendum? Which way?"

Which is how the pollsters know that readers of the Daily Mail and the Daily Express are predominantly Quitters; and young people are predominantly Remainers; and people with higher education are predominantly Remainers, and people over 65 are predominantly Quitters. Scots are predominantly remainers. Uneducated people who are long-term unemployed are predominantly Quitters.

It's not just guesswork.

All this was publically known before the referendum
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...type-of-person-wants-to-leave-and-who-will-b/

EU referendum results: every area by key demographics https://t.co/BfgbD5CnLX pic.twitter.com/0iFqqir7Hs

If you were to watch Countdown, you'd find the adverts are for such things as funeral plans, stairlifts, plumbers' tools, incontinence pads and UKIP. The advertisers make it their business to identify their potential customers by targeted surveys.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...type-of-person-wants-to-leave-and-who-will-b/

https://www.theguardian.com/news/da...nd-demographics-where-the-brexit-vote-was-won

https://www.economist.com/blogs/graphicdetail/2016/06/daily-chart-17

I don't know why Guardian readers are strongly interested in data from this kind of poll.
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...ut-how-britain-voted-in-2017?CMP=share_btn_tw

 

[SirGalahad]

The nightmare scenario for Brexit is no single market access but immigration levels still running into the hundreds of thousands.

 

[IWalkLikeHimaMartian]

The nightmare scenario for Brexit is no single market access but immigration levels still running into the hundreds of thousands.

I take it you meant net migration?
Would there be anything wrong with, say, 500,000 immigrants and 400,001 emigrants - net migration = 99,999?
2016 figures: immigration = 588,000 and emigration = 339,000. 2016 net migration = 248,000.
So a net migration figure of about 99,999 (tens of thousands) is achievable?

 

[Roger928]

Q. Why do we need negotiators?

A. So that the UK can grovel to the EU and beg for a deal meaning we have the same situation as prior to quitting only we will be in a poorer position. At least the EU won't be able to tell us what to do (most of the time).

Is the above about right?

Roger the Racist/Fraud/Liar would be happy pulling out of the talks now. Surely you quitters would be happier severing all ties with the dreaded EU?

Is that succinct enough for you Motorbike?

Yes.. walk away. And its looking as though that is more likely to happen.
Poor old bitter and hysterical remoaners.

 

[noseall]

And its looking as though that is more likely to happen

Where have you heard this Rogcon?