What is this country coming to?

No. I was just talking about run of the mill racist.
Are you a racist?
But before I can answer that, you have to give us your interpretation of a "run of the mill racist".... You have given us no yardstick by which we can measure ourselves yet..
 
The ones currently keeping the NHS from folding you mean? Those foreigners that without them the NHS would buckle?
Why would the NHS buckle if we removed some of their users to their country of origin?... I think the NHS staff would be quite pleased at having a bit less to do.
 
The ones currently keeping the NHS from folding you mean? Those foreigners that without them the NHS would buckle?
The NHS wouldn't have been as dependent of foreign NHS staff had the government not cut funding for home-grown medical staff and doctor training places.

And this year they cut the bursaries for nurses, midwives etc - funnily enough there were fewer applicants this year, a number in it's thousands. Don't you think our government made yet another stupid decision as we are so short of staff and brexit? Doesn't show much forward thinking, yet again.
 
Why would the NHS buckle if we removed some of their users to their country of origin?... I think the NHS staff would be quite pleased at having a bit less to do.
To blame foreigners for the state of the NHS is wrong. Sorry. The NHS has been on it's way down mainly due to systematic cuts by government. This isn't just hospitals but those who work with hospitals, such as social care. The aging population and the now lack of social care which enabled them to stay at home for longer and quicker release from hospitals and same goes for mental health care. Sure, we do treat foreigners, both short stay foreigners and ones that live here longer. The NHS doesn't chase as much as the money back as we should from the short stay foreigners (about half is collected) and the ones who live here longer do contribute in taxes to the UK.

Of course not treating non-British born citizens would save money, but it's just a drop in the ocean. Migrants are being used as a scapegoat for the government's **** decisions. Please blame the government because that's where the blame truly lies.
 
Now you got brexit to deal with.
Yeah Brexit.
A deal where we as a country carry on exactly as before but without the benefits associated with EU membership. Well done RWR, you have excelled yourselves yet again.(y)
 
Why would the NHS buckle if we removed some of their users to their country of origin?
Take away migrants receiving treatment from the NHS and little would change.
Take away migrants that work for the NHS and it would collapse. Instantly.
 
Does anyone on this thread actually know anyone working in the NHS? My wife does and I can categorically confirm that an absolute massive proportion of patients using the service were not born in this country and furthermore, at least 80% of all newly registered patients from abroad are being treated for hepatitis.

While it is true that there are a fair number of hard-working, decent foreign born employees that we rely on, the NHS is spending an amount of time and money treating those from abroad out of all proportion to the amount of foreigners in the actual poulation.

Did you know that if someone from abroad is accepted into a GP's practice with no checks as to their status because of a doctors wish to bolster his patient base, they are assigned an NHS number and that is it - free treatment for life. Many prospective patients that have been turned away from my wife's surgery as not elegible for NHS treatment often return weeks later with a NHS number that has been allocated to them by a 'sympathetic' member of staff from another practice.

Not in my wife's surgery but in another (inner city) surgery they have 37 patients registered at one two-bedroom address. That ain't right, is it?
 
To blame foreigners for the state of the NHS is wrong. Sorry. The NHS has been on it's way down mainly due to systematic cuts by government. This isn't just hospitals but those who work with hospitals, such as social care. The aging population and the now lack of social care which enabled them to stay at home for longer and quicker release from hospitals and same goes for mental health care. Sure, we do treat foreigners, both short stay foreigners and ones that live here longer. The NHS doesn't chase as much as the money back as we should from the short stay foreigners (about half is collected) and the ones who live here longer do contribute in taxes to the UK.

Of course not treating non-British born citizens would save money, but it's just a drop in the ocean. Migrants are being used as a scapegoat for the government's **** decisions. Please blame the government because that's where the blame truly lies.
In the main blighty, I agree with you. It is indeed the fault of the government, past and present. A huge chunk of blame goes to Tony Blair who hid his unemployed figures by stuffing them into the mod and the NHS. There are plenty of very well paid Jobs in the NHS for people who don't actually do anything other than perpetuate the need for their own existence... This is why no matter how much money you throw at the NHS, the front line staff will always be short and middle management will ever expand.
 
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