Treason - is there any real meaning to it anymore?

[SirGalahad]

Should we repeal all the laws relating to treason? I mean in todays society is treason even relevant anymore?

Under the law of the United Kingdom, high treason is the crime of disloyalty to the Crown.

 

[Doggit]

Well I'd stick with it. Under our legislation, the state assumes that overal precedence of the crown, so in reality, it's still treason against the state, and country.

 

[Ihavenojob]

Bring it back, then hang that **** Blair.

 

[SirGalahad]

Well I'd stick with it. Under our legislation, the state assumes that overal precedence of the crown, so in reality, it's still treason against the state, and country.

But what does that in effect really mean in a practical sense? Against National Interests? Which such a diverse and open economy - what is our national interest?

 

[transam]

are spies tried / convicted of treason ?

 

[Doggit]

But what does that in effect really mean in a practical sense

Interesting point really. The original definition would have been selling state secrets, but nowadays, it could well mean internet hacking, and economic attacks as well.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Or anything Trump doesn't like.

 

[HawkEye244]

I thought treason was crimes against the people, not just the establishment. You can be tried for reason under the US constitution for crimes against citizens of the US.

As for Blair, it would go somewhere to showing other countries how ashamed we are of his actions by putting him behind bars for life. I think you really have to be a twisted sort of person and in gross denial to come out in defence of him.

 

[Doggit]

The Americans take a different view of the state and the people than we do, yet funnily enough, the they are a lot hotter on treason than we are. It was Lincon that did the quote that government should be "of the people, for the people, and by the people". Over here, it's crimes against the state.

 

[durhamplumber]

think you really have to be a twisted sort of person and in gross denial to come out in defence of him

A bit harsh IMO.guess that makes me twisted in your opinion.

 

[Ihavenojob]

At least we can thank Blair for Brexit , I don't think there would have been a need for it if he hadn't opened the doors to any Tomaz, Fritz or Ali

 

[JohnD]

I thought treason was crimes against the people, not just the establishment.

If you're in England, it's for certain crimes against the Crown.

The Daily Telegraph is part of the Establishment. It's not treason to do anything to it. Nor to the Church of England, or the Headmasters' Conference.

 

[Doggit]

A bit harsh IMO.guess that makes me twisted in your opinion.

Not exactly to be fair to both of you. Blair shouldn't have opened up our borders without imposing a few restriction, and it will come back to haunt him at some point. The book damning him will initially be written about Cameron, but will have to include the fact that Blair was the precursor to the debacle. But Blair should never have taken us into the war with Bush, and thats his greatest crime, and the one he should be jailed for.