Tommy Robinson fight back against BBC corruption

[jasonzyx]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty
Leftie Guardian newspaper has written a good article on the relationship about children and sex.

You had to go back 9 years in press articles to find that?
A much more uptodate article from the same source

Thanks to a series of high-profile court cases, the question of Asian and, specifically, Muslim grooming gangs has become an incendiary issue.
Cockbain said, "It is enormously difficult to separate out group and lone offences from large-scale national datasets,” she argues. Without a proper definition of what “distinguishes ‘grooming gang’ activity from other forms of child sexual abuse, it simply isn’t possible to measure the scale or characteristics of offenders”.
The issue, Afzal argues, is less about culture or religion than opportunity and circumstance.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...e-asians-we-dont-know-if-that-figure-is-right

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[sodthisforfun]

You had to go back 9 years in press articles to find that?

WTF is your problem? Does it not have any bearing because it's 9 years old? Please, grow up and stop looking for insults.

 

[SirGalahad]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/apr/25/middle-east-child-abuse-pederasty
Leftie Guardian newspaper has written a good article on the relationship about children and sex.

Good article that. It's like the US when it comes to attitudes to child brides.

 

[jasonzyx]

Does it not have any bearing because it's 9 years old?

A more uptodate and better researched, from experts in the field, presents an argument relevant to the discussion, in that much later article that I posted.
Not about some cultural practices going on in other countries.

 

[Notch7]

ut to concentrate on one group of abusers, while ignoring another group of a far worse and more widespread practice, could be construed as inciting hatred against a whole section of society.
By all means expose abusers, and the groups of them. But let's maintain a semblance of balance

You do write some utter garbage.

What you are saying is a person that campaigns to end abuse by Catholic priests cant be taken seriously if that person doesnt also campaign to end abuse that stems from Muslim culture.

There ya go, debunked your drivel in 1 sentence

 

[Notch7]

A more uptodate and better researched, from experts in the field, presents an argument relevant to the discussion, in that much later article that I posted.
Not about some cultural practices going on in other countries.

Wrong.

The earlier article makes valid points that are still relevant.

You cant dismiss because of age.

 

[Vinty]

The main reason, in my experience, that the police turn a blind eye to Pakistani criminality is because of the violent nature and the gang mentality of the British Pakistani. In our lovely diverse multicultural towns up north, if the police bother to turn up to a report of an incident involving Pakistanis, they will quickly be surrounded by a large and aggressive crowd, making any sort of intervention or arrest impossible.

As is well known, the police only like easy arrests.

Darwin did indeed believe that there were different races within the human race.
He was a product of the society at the time.

Darwin was, after all, a man of his time, class and society. True, he was committed to a monogenic, rather than the prevailing polygenic, view of human origins, but he still divided humanity into distinct races according to differences in skin, eye or hair colour. He was also convinced that evolution was progressive, and that the white races—especially the Europeans—were evolutionarily more advanced than the black races, thus establishing race differences and a racial hierarchy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2672903/
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So Darwinism is fundamentally racist. But his book was published prior to 1900, and science has moved on a long way since the Victorian era.
Maybe some who like to believe in a hierarchy of races have not moved on.
Evolutionism is taught in schools, but the racist aspect of Darwinism is not taught in schools.

Because evolutionary biology is the default scientific position, it is assumed that "scientists" or "biologists" are "evolutionists" unless specifically noted otherwise
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolutionism​

How can you teach evolutionism in schools and leave the racist bit out?
According to Darwin we evolved from apes and that the black races were an intermediary stage between the white races and the apes.
He also said that natural selection would dictate that the white races would eradicate the black races.
The fact that the so called black races are growing exponentially while the white races are in relative decline shows that Darwin was talking through his hat.
Darwin wasn't even a qualified biologist he was just a rich toff with nothing better to do with his time than sail round the world enjoying himself while claiming he was carrying out serious scientific research.
His "theories" have more holes in them than a Swiss cheese,
Victorians used his writings to underpin the idea of scientific racism which spawned Eugenics and Hitler's own crackpot racial theories.
Anyone with any sense knows that the world was created 6000 years ago.

 

[jasonzyx]

What you are saying is a person that campaigns to end abuse by Catholic priests cant be taken seriously if that person doesnt also campaign to end abuse that stems from Muslim culture.

Not at all.

I am saying that TR concentrates his attention on the abuse by Pakistani men for the advancement of his Islamophobia.

TR as you call him tells there is a problem within Islam.

If he was really concerned about abuse of children, he would also be concerned about the abuse by catholic leaders, which is far more vile and endemic, than that perpetrated by Pakistani men.
But not a peep from him about the abuse by Catholic leaders.

 

[jasonzyx]

Wrong.

The earlier article makes valid points that are still relevant.

You cant dismiss because of age.

You can dismiss as irrelevant if one article discusses practices in other countries, when the topic of debate is practices in this country.
Which the article posted by sodthisforfun did discuss cultures in other countries..
The article that I posted is more uptodate, relevant to the abuse in this country, by more people with more expertise in the field and founded on better research.

 

[jasonzyx]

How can you teach evolutionism in schools and leave the racist bit out?
According to Darwin we evolved from apes and that the black races were an intermediary stage between the white races and the apes.
He also said that natural selection would dictate that the white races would eradicate the black races.
The fact that the so called black races are growing exponentially while the white races are in relative decline shows that Darwin was talking through his hat.
Darwin wasn't even a qualified biologist he was just a rich toff with nothing better to do with his time than sail round the world enjoying himself while claiming he was carrying out serious scientific research.
His "theories" have more holes in them than a Swiss cheese,
Victorians used his writings to underpin the idea of scientific racism which spawned Eugenics and Hitler's own crackpot racial theories.
Anyone with any sense knows that the world was created 6000 years ago.

Racist!

 

[Notch7]

You had to go back 9 years in press articles to find that?
A much more uptodate article from the same source

Thanks to a series of high-profile court cases, the question of Asian and, specifically, Muslim grooming gangs has become an incendiary issue.
Cockbain said, "It is enormously difficult to separate out group and lone offences from large-scale national datasets,” she argues. Without a proper definition of what “distinguishes ‘grooming gang’ activity from other forms of child sexual abuse, it simply isn’t possible to measure the scale or characteristics of offenders”.
The issue, Afzal argues, is less about culture or religion than opportunity and circumstance.
https://www.theguardian.com/comment...e-asians-we-dont-know-if-that-figure-is-right

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The concern abour Rochdale was significantly due to the fact authorities did not investigate due to worries of racist claims where people may have lost jobs. Sarah Champion did lose her job over it, for example.

That concern doesnt exist when investigating white grooming.

That difference is why many people support Tommy Robinson.

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[sodthisforfun]

Not about some cultural practices going on in other countries.

When I lived abroad in different countries, I respected local laws, religions and cultural ways. But it did not change who I was fundamentally. I am a product of my parents, my grandparents and my country, and have those peers instilled in the way I think to a certain extent. It's unavoidable.

So why shouldn't we talk about practices in other countries? If people are carrying out cultural practices from other countries in the UK, which IN the UK is not only a morally wrong issue, but an illegal issue like the Asian grooming and things like FGM, we surely should not dismiss the origins of such practices. To do so is short-sighted.

 

[jasonzyx]

The concern abour Rochdale was significantly due to the fact authorities did not investigate due to worries of racist claims where people may have lost jobs. Sarah Champion did lose her job over it, for example.

That concern doesnt exist when investigating white grooming.

That difference is why many people support Tommy Robinson.​

So it can't be extrapolated to the Muslim community as a whole.

TR as you call him tells there is a problem within Islam.

Thus TR supporters are misguided.

 

[Vinty]

Girls get raped by Pakistanis who happen to be Pakistani and not because they are Pakistani.
Same as young boys were raped by Cyril Smith who happened to be a white man and not because Cyril was a white man.

 

[sodthisforfun]

If he was really concerned about abuse of children, he would also be concerned about the abuse by catholic leaders, which is far more vile and endemic, than that perpetrated by Pakistani men.
But not a peep from him about the abuse by Catholic leaders.

Is it possibly (as you've already been told) the fact that we're talking about Tommy? To talk about one doesn't make any other less disgusting.