Quality PAT testing.

[mattylad]

It was a discussion on the course I did this week - just because a plug is old does not mean it fails.
While it cannot be reused it can be left and allowed to be used.

 

[JohnW2]

It was a discussion on the course I did this week - just because a plug is old does not mean it fails.
While it cannot be reused it can be left and allowed to be used.

Fair enough - if the only issue is it's age (hence, for example, non-sleeved pins) - but what about that small defect in the lid - would that be acceptable?

Kind Regards, John

 

[danechip]

I quite like the hole in the plug to let the flies out...

 

[Risteard]

Fair enough - if the only issue is it's age (hence, for example, non-sleeved pins) - but what about that small defect in the lid - would that be acceptable?

Kind Regards, John

No it isn't. It's clearly damaged.

As I pointed out though we can't state categorically whether this was the case at the time of the inspection.

 

[mattylad]

We cannot see from the angle shown if that's an actual hole (which would be a failure) or just a chip.
A chip does not mean a failure as it does not give access to the live parts so they are still insulated.

Yes we would all like it replaced but in reality its only gonna be an advisory thing and not a "it must".

 

[sparkwright]

It's a long time since I have used an old plug like that, but seem to remember there was a window so you can check fuse rating without removing the top? It was red = 3A, black = 5A and brown 13A although seen other colours so not 100%.

Where does make a difference, at work all fuses from same supplier so colours always the same. However I have opened up plugs to find wrong size, but that can only happen by manual intervention, a fuse does not over time change from 3 to 13 amp, so if looking for manual intervention where would you stop?

The plugtop (that's a trade term for the complete plug) in the picture is not the type with a window to check the fuse size. This is an old MK plugtop (that's a trade term for the complete plug) - these particular ones did, however, have a hole in the top where the earth pin is - something new plugtops (that's a trade term for complete plugs) just do not have nowadays.

 

[EFLImpudence]

Oh, I can't let that go. No it isn't.
It might be what some people call it for some ridiculous reason - such as sockets used to be called plugs.

What are you left with when you remove the plug top top? The plug top bottom?

 

[sparkwright]

Yes.

 

[333rocky333]

This is an old MK plugtop, these particular ones did, however, have a hole in the top where the earth pin is.

More of a slot i recall, what was it actually for, was it to connect an earth bond into.

 

[sparkwright]

More of a slot i recall, what was it actually for, was it to connect an earth bond into.

Yes, a slot then. I have heard it was for bonding some equipment.

I've also heard that the slot was also there to determine if the lead had an earth wire connection, but I'm not sure that fully computes - a wrap around terminal would reveal this, but not perhaps a tunnel terminal.

 

[crystal ball]

The plugtop (that's a trade term for the complete plug) in the picture is not the type with a window to check the fuse size. This is an old MK plugtop (that's a trade term for the complete plug) - these particular ones did, however, have a hole in the top where the earth pin is - something new plugtops (that's a trade term for complete plugs) just do not have nowadays.

And its not PAT testing either

 

[sparkwright]

And its not PAT testing either

Quite so, it's PA testing - not to be confused with testing public address systems.

 

[securespark]

black = 5A

2A, 7A and 10A are black too!

 

[JohnD]

Or to put it correctly, 13A are brown; 3A are red; all others are black.

 

[winston1]

- something new plugtops (that's a trade term for complete plugs)

No, it is a term used by the ignorant.