Cats or Dogs?

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Ellal is just being a queen as usual. He's got nothing better to do while he waits for Brexit.

Hey Ellal. How many people are stabbed each year in drug gang killings and maimings by certain people? More than 4? What do we do about them?
 
Ours had road sense by 3...

So I guess it's how intelligent the parent is and how they teach the concept ;)

However it is easier because you can teach that all cars are a danger, but you would have to be psychic to work out which dog was about to lunge...

Therefore you have to say that any dog is a danger...

So why do we have to restrict children in their behaviour in case a dog might attack?

Those who think that should be the case place an over importance to their pets against the rights of people not to be attacked!
You'd trust your 3 year old to cross the road? :eek:

A dog saying hello to a child, even jumping up is no danger - certainly not maulling.

I think also that you will find that most dogs have no interest in random children they do not know, with the exception of the odd excitable puppy who wants to say hello to everyone. Nearly all the bites and deaths from dogs are done by the family dog or by neighbour dogs. Dogs known to them anyway. To react the way you are about all dogs being dangerous and wanting to ban them all really shows a lack of understanding.

Dog owners have a responsibility to neuter and to train them into loving, obedient creatures. And parents, esp those parents who are nervous about dogs, should also teach their child how to respect a dog, even if that means keep away.
 
Both.. Had dogs all the time until work made it impossible, and grew up with a dog-mad mum. Dogs are fab and would love another.

Have had cats the last 8 years. The first was a rescue, well, sort of. Pushed on us really and he turned out to be the best cat ever and completely changed my view on cats. He didn't chase wildlife. He did initially, but we trained him not to. The wildlife actually learned to trust him and saw him sniffing noses with 2 squirrels in our garden and the birds would happily eat with him just a foot away. Not all cats kill and because he was so territorial and beat the crud out of other cats, he helped the wildlife in a roundabout way by keeping all cats away from our garden & neighbours. When he died, other cats started coming in and then the dead bird bodies started appearing.

The kitten we have now is showing more interest and has had a couple of opportunities to kill. A poorly bird was in the garden for 2 days on the ground and the kitten just sniffed it. She's been close to squirrels and again, didn't grab. The poor hedgehogs in the garden have to suffer her rubbing her cheeks over them while they're trying to eat. It may change, we hope to teach her that it's not ok and in the meantime she has a bell on her collar.


You should send this story to Walt Disney. They could make a film out of it.
 
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You'd trust your 3 year old to cross the road?
As usual you didn't read it properly...

I said they had road sense, and that's a different thing...
A dog saying hello to a child, even jumping up is no danger
Why the hell should anyone, let alone a small child, have to put up with a dog jumping up at them?

But I guess you're one of the "it's only being friendly" lot :rolleyes:

However you yourself said "Young children have no understanding of a dog and how to treat them, therefore increasing the chance of a bite when things go wrong"

How do expect a child to react when a strange dog leaps up at them?
(don't forget a child is a lot closer to the ground than you are)

It is you that 'shows a lack of understanding' because you believe a parent is to blame if a child hasn't been prepared for a random encounter with a potentially dangerous animal...

How exactly does one do that, given that you claim the problem also lies with the dog's owner?

How do we tell if they have trained their mutt well or not?

Even though that is no guarantee that the dog won't turn on anyone given certain circumstances...

You appear to have your priorities all wrong!
 
As usual you didn't read it properly...

I said they had road sense, and that's a different thing...

Why the hell should anyone, let alone a small child, have to put up with a dog jumping up at them?

But I guess you're one of the "it's only being friendly" lot :rolleyes:

However you yourself said "Young children have no understanding of a dog and how to treat them, therefore increasing the chance of a bite when things go wrong"

How do expect a child to react when a strange dog leaps up at them?
(don't forget a child is a lot closer to the ground than you are)

It is you that 'shows a lack of understanding' because you believe a parent is to blame if a child hasn't been prepared for a random encounter with a potentially dangerous animal...

How exactly does one do that, given that you claim the problem also lies with the dog's owner?

How do we tell if they have trained their mutt well or not?

Even though that is no guarantee that the dog won't turn on anyone given certain circumstances...

You appear to have your priorities all wrong!


All along I have said that nearly all problems regarding dogs can be solved with proper training. This is why guide dogs don't bite, jump, pull etc. If it's their nature to jump, bite, attack whatever, why is it that guide dogs don't? I'll give you a clue, starts with a 'T' and ends in an 'ing'.

So how many times has your child been jumped over by a dog you do not know, while walking in the street? Was your child hurt? Isn't it funny, you've gone from arguing about 'Mauling and disfigured' to a dog jumping and causing no harm. Grasping at straws..

I don't think logic, reason or even listening to another view is on your agenda. You don't like dogs, you don't understand dogs - wasting my time talking to you is very clear.
 
I hate dogs.

They are (nearly all) ugly, dirty, smelly, noisy, clumsy, over-excited stupid mutants.

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They are (nearly all) ugly, dirty, smelly, noisy, clumsy, over-excited stupid mutants.

Dirty and smelly? Our one has a bath every night and extra ones if she comes across anything bath-like when she’s out!
 

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