'Easiest deal in history'
3 years to get an EU treaty agreed, which costs £39b to unlock the door and breaks up the union.
My my fillyboy thinks thats a win.
Who will win and by how many?
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'Easiest deal in history'
3 years to get an EU treaty agreed, which costs £39b to unlock the door and breaks up the union.
My my fillyboy thinks thats a win.
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You been predicting it for 3 years Numpty.since ref day...left or not..give ya braincell a shake
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What Brexit events have had the biggest impact on the pound?
Brexit has caused significant changes to the pound sterling, not only from key events but from speculation within financial markets. However, these events, in particular, have had a major impact on the pound.
Brexit has caused significant changes to the pound sterling, not only from key events but from speculation within financial markets. However, these events, in particular, have had a major impact on the pound.
- Referendum result.Following the vote to leave the EU, the pound fell sharply. In the weeks following the referendum the pound fell by 10.4% against the Euro from €1.3017 on 23 June to €1.1663 on 6 July 2016.
- Article 50 Legal challenge. In October 2016 negotiations took place to determine whether Theresa May could trigger Article 50 without parliamentary approval. It was during this legal battle that the pound fell by 4.6% from €1.1579 on 30 September 2016 to €1.1044 on 11 October 2016. The High Court ruled that the government must have parliamentary approval i.e. a law would need to be passed through the House of Commons and the House of Lords in order to authorise Article 50.
- Single market speculation. The pound fell once again on the 16 January 2017 due to speculation surrounding Theresa May’s hardline approach to Brexit and the expectation that she would announce that Britain will be leaving the EU single market. The pound fell by 3.45% following these reports from €1.1767 Euros on 3 January 2017 to €1.1361 on 16 January 2017.
- Article 50 triggered. Theresa May triggered Article 50 on 29 March 2017. This kick-started the formal process of Britain’s exit from the EU, and saw the pound drop by 0.65% from €1.1612 on 23 March 2017 to €1.1537 on 29 March 2017.
- General election results. The sterling suffered its highest fall of 2017 following the surprise election result as Theresa May lost her majority government, sparking more political uncertainty in Britain. The pound fell to a seven-month low of €1.1287.
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Bodd
Maybe just a maybe the Torys think they can make a success of Brexit....
I don't believe any party would want to bring the country down....... Unless they are all Russian agents of course
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Following the referendum, the majority of Tory MPs in Tory thought Brexit would be damaging, so no the government didnt think they could make a success of it.
What you actually mean is: 'the current Tory party'. Johnson and his sycophant cabinet have used brexit as a populist platform to get in power. Some Tories believe in Brexit, some like Johnson know its bad but want power.
Is that what all you non-Brits are hoping for?
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Bodd
But why would he want to be known as the man that put the final nail in the coffin of this once great country.....
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quite a few calls missing in the posts.. Don't be shy.
Thats a clever question, fundamental to how politics works really.
There is a major flaw with democracy. The public vote for the policies they want, even if that isnt realistic.
For example: Boris Johnson during the leadership campaign that he would get brexit done by 31st Oct. Everybody knew it wasnt possible, but many Conservatives voted for it anyway.
And thats the problem, to get in power you have to sell what will win, not what is right.
Most people want a better funded NHS and Police but will vote in a party that promises tax cuts.
Johnson has just one goal: to be prime minister. He has no interest in brexit, but he is held to ransom by the ERG and fear of the Brexit party, so he has had to adopt a hard brexit stance strategically to win power.
Once Johnson is in power, he is going to face the same brexit problems: trade deals and good economy means close alignment with the EU, but his hard brexit party will demand a hard brexit.
Next year Johnson will be blackmailing his party: it will be between a terrible free trade agreement vs no deal or an extension.
So no, Johnson doesnt want to wreck the UK, but he wants power 1st, then he will try and soften brexit to limit damage. Or he will throw money at the problem to keep being popular and push the damage from brexit into the next parliament.
That nail has already been hammered in!
Not that any country can be described as 'once great', given the inevitable nature of that 'greatness'...
Nationalism is (alongside religion) a great evil in this world!
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Bodd
I've been to many great countrys. That have of have had many failures.
And there is nothing wrong with National pride.
Sadly 'national pride' is very often hijacked and used to inflict damage on others who also have 'national pride'...
Personally I don't believe in 'nationalism' per se, because 'nationalism' is a manufactured process and countries as they exist are just different...
As are the people within artificial 'borders'!
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Everyone lies. An excuse I would expect from a child not an adult.
Brexit was sold as national pride 'we dont want foreigners giving us rules'
But it was sold on a false premise, terms like sovereignty and get back control, appeal to sentimentality not reality.
Britains strength is based on the trade alliances it forges.
As an EU member the UK offers the world a country of low regulation, low taxes but inside the worlds biggdst trade bloc with the most advanced regulatory alignment.
Leaving that will be a loss of power- not compatible if you believe in national pride
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